Anybody interested in reading a long but interesting article about the little Known Genocide in Armenia ?

Armenian Genocide Holocaust





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The plans of the 1915-23 Armenian Genocide, where a million and half Armenians perished in a barbaric way in their ancestral lands in modern Turkey, actually were drawn up and were in place by the year 1910 or 1912.





There is the book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" written by Mevlan Zadeh Rifat in Turkish and published in 1929, the author, a pro-sultan Turk, claims that the "Armenian genocide was decided in August 1910 and October 1911, by a Young Turk committee composed entirely of displaced Balkan Jews in the format of a syncretist Jewish-Muslim sect which included Talaat, Enver, Behaeddin Shakir, Jemal, and Nizam posting as Muslims. It met in the Rothschild-funded Grand Orient loge/hotel of Salonika." Syncretism means a combination of different forms of belief or practice; masonism fits that description. As the masons started the 1897 revolution in France with the cry "liberty, fraternity, equality," Young Turks used the same slogan in their revolution of 1908.





A 1994 conference paper/lecture by Joseph Brewda of Schiller Institute entitled "Palmerson launches Young Turks to permanently control Middle East " claims the founder of the Young Turks to be a certain Jew by the name of Emmanuel Carasso. He states: "Carasso set up the Young Turk secret society in the 1890s in Salonika, then part of Turkey, and now part of Greece. Carasso was also the grand master of an Italian masonic lodge there, called 'Macedonia Resurrected.' The lodge was the headquarters of the Young Turks, and all the top Young Turk leadership were members."





Further on Mr. Brewda says: "During the Young Turk regime, Carasso continued to play a leading role. He met with the sultan, to tell him that he was overthrown. He was in charge of putting the sultan under house arrest. He ran the Young Turk intelligence network in the Balkans. And he was in charge of all food supplies in the empire during World War I." It is ironic that four centuries after the Turkish sultans welcomed the expelled European Jews into Turkey, certain Jews belonging to secret societies and to Zionism will kick the sultan out of power early in 20th century, destroy the Ottoman Empire, and celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy almost the whole Christian Armenian people, one million and half Armenians; half million Greeks; and half million Christian Assyrians %26amp; Arameans.





In 1982, after the Israeli army conquered Lebanon, they celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy children and women in the Palestinian camp of Shattila, in Lebanon, by allowing Lebanese Phalanger militia fighters to move into the camp for two days and murder its inhabitants. Eighty percent of the camp were killed. Nearly all of the dead were old men, women and children and all of them had been unarmed. Not one gun, not one knife was found in their possession, claims a Palestinian witness.





All this according to the percepts of the Talmud, the Satanic Bible of the Jews, which encourages Jews to kill, directly or indirectly, by sayings like: "Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless, is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber Raba c21 %26amp; Jalkut 772. In the eyes of Talmudists all non-Jews are godless. And "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Talmud: Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425. Very neatly put sentence indeed.





Jesus came and shed his blood for us in order to save humanity and put an end to human and animal sacrifices practiced by Talmudist Jews who believe that the shedding of the blood of the innocents is a prerequisite of their reptilian gods, specially before embarking on an enterprise. They have orchestrated the massacres and slaughters of millions and millions of humanity so that their demonic gods will be appeased and grand them a new homeland in the near-east. Apparently, the sacrifice of hundreds of millions of humanity during the first half of the twenty century (including the six million Jews of Nazi Holocaust) have appeased their gods and their wish was granted.





Back to the Young Turks. Mr. Brewda writes: "Another important area was the press. While in power, the Young Turks ran several newspapers, including 'The Young Turk,' whose editor was none other than the Russian Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky. Jabotinsky had been educated as a young man in Italy."





Mr. Brewda, ignoring the possibility that Talaat could have been a secret infiltrated Jew, writes: "Of course, there were also some Turks who helped lead the Young Turk movement. For example, Talaat Pasha. Talaat was the interior minister and dictator of the regime during World war I. He had been a member of Carasso's Italian masonic lodge in Salonika. One year prior to the 1908 coup, Talaat became the grand master of the Scottish Rite Masons in the Ottoman Empire. If you go to the [archives of] Scottish Rite headquarters in Washington, D.C., you can find that most of the Young Turk leaders were officials in the Scottish Rite."





By 1916 the British and French, overpowered by greed, already had a secret agreement to divide the Ottoman Empire between themselves. Presently Hitler's "Mien Kempt " anti-semitic book is a best-seller in Turkey, it is published by various Turkish publishers by thousands and thousands. Are the Turks finally waking up and realizing that their Sultan's refusal to grant Palestine to the Zionist Jews as a homeland had cost them their centuries-old empire? And are the subjugated Turks about to discover who their real rulers are? There are claims that the blue-eyed founder of modern Turkey, Kemal Ataturk had Jewish origins. And it is known that at least two presidents of modern Turkey (Inonu and Bayar) were Jewish.





In Istanbul, which was the capital and the power center of the Ottoman Empire, there was only few thousands (less than 10,000) Jews and some 200,000 Armenians and Greeks who controlled the trade, finances and arts of the Empire. Jews and Christians were in strong competition through hundreds of years of the life of the empire. Jews were the losers and Christians were the winner always because the Sultans ( there were very few bad sultans who killed Christians) listened to and favored the Christians. For the Zionist Jews to take over Turkey, its Christians had to be eliminated; and that is another ugly facade of the first Genocide of the 20th Century in Turkey.





Another source is the lengthy article "The Armenian %26amp; Jewish Genocide Project: Eliminating Ethnic Conflict Along the Oil Route From Baku to the Suez Canal Region " written by Clifford Shack and posted in his web-site.





Mr. Shack writes: "In the 1880's, the French branch of the Rothschild family acquired interests in Russia's Baku oil fields in an effort to supply their refinery on the Adriatic with cheap Russian oil. In exchange for these interests they built a railroad linking Baku to the newly acquired Black Sea port of Batum. This opened up the Baku oil, a major world supply, to the world. With the success of the new railroad, the Rothschilds had more oil than they could actually sell. Overcoming their fear of competing with the giant Standard oil [of USA], they sought out the huge [Far East] markets east of Suez."





Further on Mr. Shack makes his point: "The decision by the shrewd French Rothschild branch to diversify into other areas of oil exploitation was, presumably, a calculated one. Three years after they joined Royal Dutch, production at Baku would come to an abrupt halt in 1905. Although shaken by political activity, the principal disruption was due to the violence of the ethnic conflict between the region's Muslims and the minority population of Armenians who are Christians. This ethnic conflict caused the first interruption of oil distribution to the world market. Standard oil was quick to supplant the needs of the effected markets as its source was operating under the blanket of peace. The Royal/Dutch/Shell Group (and the Nobles) watched their Baku investments go up in flames. Ethnic conflict was at the root of the matter. It could be safely assumed that they were taking measures to eliminate the possibility of that happening in the future." Oil corporations seem to have learned their lessons from history because before the construction of present-day Baku-Ceyhan pipeline has began, someone has made sure that no Armenians were left in Baku anymore. Mr. Shack notes that "the mere elimination of the Armenian population of Baku would not solve the problem of ethnic conflict in that region. The surrounding areas would provide reservoir effect in resupplying the conflicting minority element." And he asks: "was the removal [in 1915-23] of a small minority like the Armenians [from historical Armenia] a fair price to pay for the peace in a region so crucial to the development and investment of the Far East?" Apparently Mr. Shack ignores the factor of revenge raging in the heart of human beasts.





Mr. Shacks answers his own question by stating in his article about the big business or big corporations: "It would be fair to say that the genocide of a group of a million or so, to serve the benefit of a billion or so [in the Far East], is less of a question of should it be done, than how it could be done. So as not to reveal any plausible motive which could link the actual planners to the genocide, the scheme involved a proxy party [namely the Muslim Turks, Kurds %26amp; Azeris] , which was manipulated through layers of influence, providing sufficient cover for the planners."





In chapter 30 of the book of Isaiah we read God speaking by His prophet: "Woe to the rebellious children, who execute a plan, but not Mine, and make an alliance, but not of My Spirit, in order to add sin to sin;...For this is a rebellious people, false sons, sons who refuse to listen to the instruction of the Lord."





This is not the whole story; there is an evil aliens connection to it. Amitakh Stanford, in her web-site %26lt;http://www.xeeatwelve.com... and in her article "The Anunnaki Remnants Are Still on Earth" writes: "It is these horrible beings, the Anunnaki, that Sitchin has written an apology for. Reading Sitchin's material, he has painted these evil aliens as palatably as possible by presenting the story that they are trying to save their own planet, and leaves the readers to believe that after that is accomplished, they would leave without a trace, so to speak. But, the Anunnaki came here to conquer and enslave, not for any worthy purpose whatsoever, nor will they leave voluntarily. "Anunnaki cull people and other species from the planet. Before, this was often referred to as genocide. However, today the more euphemistic term of "ethnic cleansing" is used. The disdain of other races is another vile Anunnaki-sponsored trait to divide people into factions and create hatred and distrust of one another. Any fair look at history will verify this as true. The twentieth-century Holocaust is one such example." So after all, we are not dealing with normal human beings, but by humans who are possessed with those alien entities and humans that are manipulated, influenced, and given instructions by those evil aliens in their various factions.





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This research article is not copyrighted. Reproduction is permitted. No one need waste time calling the author an 'anti-semite.' He will be the first to come to the help of a Jew if and when a Jewish life is in peril. Before you call him anti-semite your better call the God of the Bible and His prophets 'anti-semites.' If not, then you have to re-read the Bible...carefully.





For Joseph Brewda's article go to : SchillerInstitute.org then put the name of the author or title of his article in the search tab of the web-site of the institute. For Clifford Shack's article, put his name in the search tap of Yahoo in order to find his web-site where his article is posted.





The Turkish book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" has no known English translation. It was translated into Armenian in 1939 in Beirut, Lebanon, by Donigian Press.








http://www.rense.com/general64/genoc.htm

Anybody interested in reading a long but interesting article about the little Known Genocide in Armenia ?
That all seems to trace back to one posting on a page called "Armenian News - PanARMENIAN.net"


Jack Manuelian seems to be quite the anti-semite, he is an author, I suppose because he has one self published book about Nostradamus predictions.





Thank you for posting and making me aware of this Hate Mongering Lunatic.
Reply:There was no Genocide. Turkey was already in war. Armenians were protected in Turkey and Countries like Russia and France armed Armenians to fight against Turks. When the conflict broke loose, there were casualties on both sides. England, France other guilty countries, published propaganda book called the blue book to cause damage but there was no truth, there were no witnesses. There is a good book you should read called the "Armenian Mythomania - Armenian Extremism: Its Causes and Historical Context" written by Prof. Eric Feigl. There is another book called the "Tall Armenian Tale" visit www.tallarmeniantale.com.





There are lot of American Historians claim no truth to the fact of Genocide, but there was casualties on both sides due to a war.





Prof. Justin McCarthy is another historian who will prove that there was no Genocide.





Most recent Massacre took place in Khojali, Azerbaijan where Armenians killed 20,000 women, children and the elderly. Wouldn't you consider that as a Genocide?





What about the millions killed in Algiers, and those thousands killed in Rwanda by France, Wouldn't that be a Genocide?





Turkey has opened their Archives, but Armenia is against facing the truth. Most, Armenians claim, hear say myths from who said what but does not have any evidence to support it.





What about the recent findings of Mass Graves in Turkey, proves to be filled with Turkish nationals killed by the Armenian gangs, who were armed by the Russians.
Reply:What ever you want. God is in control. Be it large or small. Be it a piece or a remnant.
Reply:You could have just linked to the original article and typed up an executive summary. What's the gist of it, since I doubt very many people are going to read it (myself included)?
Reply:No thank you.


The Armenian genocide has been officially recognized in my country some years ago.
Reply:no
Reply:Can you tell us something about Khojaly Genocide in Azerbaijan?





Nizami Jafarov,


Member of the Political Council of the New Azerbaijan Party,


Chairman of the Milli Majlis standing commission on science and culture





“On February 26, 1992, the Armenian army ruined the Azerbaijani town of Khojaly with the population of over 7 thousand people. 613 civilians were killed with torture, of them 63 are children. 155 children were left orphans. 487 people were injured. 1275 people were taken prisoners. 150 became missing. The massacre and attack on Khojaly was important from the strategic point of view. It was located 10 km south of the capital of Nagorno-Karabakh Khankendi. There was the only airport on the juncture of Agdam-Shusha and Askeran-Khankendi roads” he said.


“…To strengthen its positions against England in the Near and Middle East in 1801-1828, Russian empire used Armenians as the instrument. Instead of it, the Empire created the so-called Armenian province at the expense of Azerbaijani lands. In total, over 2000 Azeri Turks were driven through different ways from the Western Azerbaijan, now Armenia. Armenia, monoethnic country, was created.”


“Armenia took for its own Nagorno-Karabakh – Shusha, Khankendi, Khojaly, Asgaran, Khojavand, Agdere, Hadrut (4400 sq. km) and then occupied Lachin, Kelbajar, Agdam, Jabrail, Fuzuli, Gubadly and Zengilan in 1990-93, thus, purging 20 percent of Azerbaijani lands from Azerbaijanis, and settling Armenian population there in an effort to keep the lands. Who can guarantee that Armenian separatists will not commit those atrocities against the other nations. Azerbaijan, which has over 1 million refugees and 20 percent of occupied territories, is still hopeful that its scream will be heard.” N. Jafarov added.
Reply:Thank you.


Deep but impactful.
Reply:Yes . This is what is causing a big problem in the government of Turkey at this very moment .
Reply:Ive know about this for a long time.
Reply:THE ANSWER TO THIS MAKE BELIEVE FAIRY STORY CAN BE SEEN IN KARABAGH DISTRICT OF AZERBAIJAN WHERE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CHILDREN WERE RIPPED OUT OF THEIR MOTHER LONG BEFORE THEIR DUE DATE. MANY WOMAN RAPED BY THE ARMENIAN AND THOUSANDS OF OLD AZERIES BURNED ALIVE BY A VERY CHRISTIAN PEOPLE OF ARMENIA. YES THEIR WAS A GENOCIDE BUT THIS WAS IN HODJALIA IN AZERBAIJAN. THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN ANY MASS KILLINGS AGAINST THE ARMENIAN. THOSE WHO DIED WERE KILLED IN FIGHTING WHILE THEY WERE CUTTING UP BABES AND BURNING DOWN MUSLIM HOUSES IN EASTERN TURKEY. TURKEY HAS OFFERED THE WORLD TO LOOK IN TO THEIR ARCHIVES BUT THE ARMENIANS THE BARBERIANS HAVE SO FAR REFUSED TO NEGOATIATE. WHY BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL HURT. AND YES AGAIN IF THERE WERE ANY GENOCIDE IN TURKEY THIS WAS DONE BY THE TRAITORS ARMENIANS THE BARBERIANS WHO WERE SIDED WITH FRENCH YET ANOTHER EXPIRIENCE BARBARIANS AND KILLING MACHINES OF INNOCENT. READ THE FRENCH HISTORY TO SEE HOW MANY CONTRIES HAVE SUFFERED IN THEIR HANDS. AND WHO LOVES THE ARMENIANS MOST. THE FRENCH OF COURSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON. KILLING INNOCENT AND KILLING THE DEFENCLESS. LIKE THE UNBORN BABIES. LOOK AT ALGIERS AND LOOK AT KARABAGH. ONLY 15 YEARS AGO. YES THATS WHERE THE GENOCIDE WERE. BY THE MAKERS OF GOOD LOVING PEOLPLE OF ARMENIA. BUT DONT BELIVE ME READ THE ARMENIAN HISTORY BOOKS. READ THE BOOKS WRITTEN BY THIER FIRST PRIME MINISTER. OR LISTEN THE WORLD WORST KILLERS THE FRENCH AND THEIR FRIENDS THE ARMENIANS WHO ARE BEING USED IN THIS PLOT TO SPLIT TURKEY. IF THIS HAS HAPPENED IN 1910 AND THE TURKS WERE FIGHTING THE FRENCH AND THEIR ALIIEDS IN 1920 WHERE WERE THE ARMNEIANS, WHY DIDNT THEY CRY GENOCIDE ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. BECAUSE FRENCH AND THE ENGLISH WERE WIPING THEIR BACKSIDE AFTER BEING KICKED OFF BY THE TURKS IN TO THE SEA OF AGEA. THEY HAD MORE REASON TO ACCUSE THE TURKS OF GENOSIDE. BUT THERE WERE NOT ANY GENOCIDE SO NO ONE COULD SAY ANYTHING. BUT SINCE TURKEY HAS BECOME A MAJOR FORCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST THE ONLY WAY TO SLOW THEM DOWN WAS TO USE THE ARMENIANS THE BARBERIANS IN THEIR PLOT AGAINST THE TURKEY. AS TO ATATURK AND INONU BEING A JEW THERE ARE MORE CHANCE OF SEING A FLYING PIGS IN ARMENIA BUT THAN AGAIN THANK GOOD NOBODY THOUGHT OF THEM AS BEING ARMENIAN WHAT COULD BE WORST THAN THAT. GIVEN A CHOICE I HAVE RATHER BE A PIG THAN A ARMENIAN I WOULD HAVE HAD MORE PERSONALITY. AND LOOK AT WHER ARMENIA IS NEXT TO TURKEY IRAN NAHCIVAN AND AZERBAIJAN SO THERE ARE MORE CHANCE OF ALL THE ARMENIAN BEING A MUSLIM THAN ATATURK BEING A JEW. BUT I WOULD HAVE HAD HIM A JEW ANY DAY THAN ARMENIAN. AT LEAST JEWS HAVE A CLASS.

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