Here's a look at my resume as of Junior year:
GPA - 3.765
SAT (expected score) - 1800-2000
2 or 3 AP courses per year/the rest are advanced classes
E.C.s - Student Council (Representative, Class President, Student Body Secretary), Key Club (3 yrs.), Student Recruiting Club (3 yrs.), Debate (2 yrs.), school Newspaper (Editor) (3 yrs.), Basketball Team (1 yr.), Catholic Teen Retreat (Director) (3 yrs.), Church Youth Group, 200+ service hours and I was an intern for 3 months in the courtroom of a federal judge.
I will be a 1st generation Black college student. I am very interested in journalism and politics and I am very faith-oriented. I'm very good at history and english/writing but I'm not sure what to major in.
What do I need to improve or tweak on my resume so that I can further my chances of achieving the dream? And if not Yale, what are some colleges on that caliber that I can apply to in Texas or Virginia. I pray and hope that Yale is where I end up.
How can I get into Yale?
It is too early to tell -- especially since you haven't taken the SAT yet.
Your GPA is in the right range if it is unweighted. Your SAT scores are on the low side for top ten schools -- so Yale will be a stretch. But if you do get SAT scores of 1800-2000 -- plenty of other good schools would love to get you. Many schools would love to get talented black students -- so your chances could be better than the average person with your qualifications.
In Texas, the only schools you should consider are Rice and UT-Austin. In Virginia, University of Virginia and William %26amp; Mary.
Princeton Review has a tool where you can enter information about your background and interests %26amp; it will suggest schools for you. The link is below.
Reply:A donation of a large sum of money, someone who went there before that did well, good GPA and list of things you did, and LUCK
- Answerman
Reply:Those are actually low SAT scores for a top school, but lots of people get in with those kinds of SAT scores. Your race and first generation status will help. It's honestly not easy to predict who will get into an Ivy. It seems so random the admissions process, but I'm sure the school had a reason for picking those people.
Friday, July 31, 2009
Does a low GPA mean low IQ?
my question is whether or not gpa's really determine intellect, or even if sat's do...
Years ago a teacher told me he thought i might be the one of smartest people on a team of about 400, but of course i dismissed it. How could a kid getting mostly c's, be even close to the smartest? he pushed me, and actually made me want to try in school. Now about 5 or 6 years later, im in two advanced placement classes, but all together, theres really no improvement in my grades. Right now im also an editor on the school paper, but i even slack in that. What can i say, im a slacker, ive always been. However the one thing that piques my interest is writing, however even in ap english my grade pales in comparison to others. My essays get really good scores but i question the accuracy, and i do little to accomplish assignments i deem trivial...
I see others cheating to complete what i shrug off; and therefore i wonder if my grade accurately entails my intelligence or merely the effort i put forth.
Does a low GPA mean low IQ?
Does a low GPA mean low IQ?
No
Reply:You could have a GPA of 0 and still be a very intelligent person. Your GPA is just the average of all your grades. IE: If you don't do homework or tests, your grade will suffer, not your brain....
Reply:I know several very intelligent people who are bored by their classes, lazy, or both. Either way, their grades are mediocre but they have performed very well on standardized tests and such.
Reply:GPA has nothing to do with intelligence.
SAT (the new one) has a very low correlation ratio with IQ.
Creative types tend not to follow the strict and often dull model of secondary education and there are examples throughout history which prove it. While most of them are concerned with the arts (including writing), perhaps the most notable example is of a scientist - Albert Einstein. He never did well in school, but that did not prevent him from revolutionizing our understanding and the world of physics forever.
Reply:NO!
A smart lazy person can fail, and an ambitious dimwit can get As. GPA is more about effort than anything else.
Also, some smart people are not great at taking tests, but great at real life applications. And some tests that are just memorization of dates only really seem to test how well you can remember what you read.
Reply:no GPA does not mean you have low IQ. unfortunately the world compares grades with intelligence. You are lazy and that is why you are not working u to your potential. If you do well on the sat then you can get in to any school you want. i would highly recommend you to not be SO lazy just CUZ if in the world we live some one is lazy they will not accomplish any thing whether its a job, relationship etc. good luck with every thing and motivate ur self being lazy is not a good habit.
Reply:Your GPA does more to reflect your work ethic and how motivated you are. A high GPA means you did your homework. Your IQ indicates your ability to think logically and solve problems.
Reply:Someone can have a high IQ but if they're unmotivated and dont put forth effort in school work, it can result in a low GPA
Reply:Well, sounds like you're an underachiever and proud of it. Your GPA reflects how much of your IQ you're putting to use.
Years ago a teacher told me he thought i might be the one of smartest people on a team of about 400, but of course i dismissed it. How could a kid getting mostly c's, be even close to the smartest? he pushed me, and actually made me want to try in school. Now about 5 or 6 years later, im in two advanced placement classes, but all together, theres really no improvement in my grades. Right now im also an editor on the school paper, but i even slack in that. What can i say, im a slacker, ive always been. However the one thing that piques my interest is writing, however even in ap english my grade pales in comparison to others. My essays get really good scores but i question the accuracy, and i do little to accomplish assignments i deem trivial...
I see others cheating to complete what i shrug off; and therefore i wonder if my grade accurately entails my intelligence or merely the effort i put forth.
Does a low GPA mean low IQ?
Does a low GPA mean low IQ?
No
Reply:You could have a GPA of 0 and still be a very intelligent person. Your GPA is just the average of all your grades. IE: If you don't do homework or tests, your grade will suffer, not your brain....
Reply:I know several very intelligent people who are bored by their classes, lazy, or both. Either way, their grades are mediocre but they have performed very well on standardized tests and such.
Reply:GPA has nothing to do with intelligence.
SAT (the new one) has a very low correlation ratio with IQ.
Creative types tend not to follow the strict and often dull model of secondary education and there are examples throughout history which prove it. While most of them are concerned with the arts (including writing), perhaps the most notable example is of a scientist - Albert Einstein. He never did well in school, but that did not prevent him from revolutionizing our understanding and the world of physics forever.
Reply:NO!
A smart lazy person can fail, and an ambitious dimwit can get As. GPA is more about effort than anything else.
Also, some smart people are not great at taking tests, but great at real life applications. And some tests that are just memorization of dates only really seem to test how well you can remember what you read.
Reply:no GPA does not mean you have low IQ. unfortunately the world compares grades with intelligence. You are lazy and that is why you are not working u to your potential. If you do well on the sat then you can get in to any school you want. i would highly recommend you to not be SO lazy just CUZ if in the world we live some one is lazy they will not accomplish any thing whether its a job, relationship etc. good luck with every thing and motivate ur self being lazy is not a good habit.
Reply:Your GPA does more to reflect your work ethic and how motivated you are. A high GPA means you did your homework. Your IQ indicates your ability to think logically and solve problems.
Reply:Someone can have a high IQ but if they're unmotivated and dont put forth effort in school work, it can result in a low GPA
Reply:Well, sounds like you're an underachiever and proud of it. Your GPA reflects how much of your IQ you're putting to use.
What are my chances of getting into Upenn ED?
For the College, Early D.
GPA: 3.8
ACT: 32/33 (going to take them again)
6 APs, 5 honors throughout high school
Live in Northeast
SAT IIs: TBA (although penn doesn't require them)
Leadership:
School Newspaper (10,11,12 - Editor-in-Chief grade 12)
Debate Team (9,10,11,12 - President for grades 10-12)
Model United Nations (9,10,11,12 - VP for grades 11,12)
Model Congress (10,11,12 - VP grades 11,12)
Students for Barack Obama (State Coordinator for HS Campaign)
Average Community service (teen center, local library, nature center, etc.)
Awards:
National Honor Society and Spanish Honor Society
State Finals Tournament for Debate - Grades 10,11
Honorable Mention at the Harvard MUN Conference 2007
C.O.L.T. Award for Excellence in Spanish
5th Place Novice Team in Debate Tournament
Other:
a Capella Madrigals choir and Mens choir
Testing water at State-certified laboratory
Summer:
Campaigning for Obama (2007)
Summer School Chemistry (2006)
Work:
Local Supermarket - 6-10 hrs/week
What are my chances of getting into Upenn ED?
I'd say you have an Okay chance. Maybe about a 68%.
Reply:You've got a pretty good chance. I'd recommend you not take the ACT again. The higher your score is, the more likely it is that you'll do worse the second time. You might want to give the SAT a try instead.
lotus flower
GPA: 3.8
ACT: 32/33 (going to take them again)
6 APs, 5 honors throughout high school
Live in Northeast
SAT IIs: TBA (although penn doesn't require them)
Leadership:
School Newspaper (10,11,12 - Editor-in-Chief grade 12)
Debate Team (9,10,11,12 - President for grades 10-12)
Model United Nations (9,10,11,12 - VP for grades 11,12)
Model Congress (10,11,12 - VP grades 11,12)
Students for Barack Obama (State Coordinator for HS Campaign)
Average Community service (teen center, local library, nature center, etc.)
Awards:
National Honor Society and Spanish Honor Society
State Finals Tournament for Debate - Grades 10,11
Honorable Mention at the Harvard MUN Conference 2007
C.O.L.T. Award for Excellence in Spanish
5th Place Novice Team in Debate Tournament
Other:
a Capella Madrigals choir and Mens choir
Testing water at State-certified laboratory
Summer:
Campaigning for Obama (2007)
Summer School Chemistry (2006)
Work:
Local Supermarket - 6-10 hrs/week
What are my chances of getting into Upenn ED?
I'd say you have an Okay chance. Maybe about a 68%.
Reply:You've got a pretty good chance. I'd recommend you not take the ACT again. The higher your score is, the more likely it is that you'll do worse the second time. You might want to give the SAT a try instead.
lotus flower
The formula for calculating the amount of money?
The formula for calculating the amount of money returned for an initial deposit into a bank account or CD (certificate of deposit) is given by
A=P(1+r/n)^nt
A is the amount of the return.
P is the principal amount initially deposited.
r is the annual interest rate (expressed as a decimal).
n is the number of compound periods in one year.
t is the number of years.
Carry all calculations to six decimals on each intermediate step, then round the final answer to the nearest cent.
Suppose you deposit $4,000 for 8 years at a rate of 7%.
a) Calculate the return (A) if the bank compounds annually (n = 1). Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space. Use ^ to indicate the power or use the Equation Editor in MS Word.
b) Calculate the return (A) if the bank compounds monthly (n = 12). Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space
c) Does compounding annually or monthly yield more interest? Explain why.
Answer:
Explain:
d) If a bank compounds continuously, then the formula used is
where e is a constant and equals approximately 2.7183.
Calculate A with continuous compounding. Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space
e) A commonly asked question is, “How long will it take to double my money?” At 7% interest rate and continuous compounding, what is the answer? Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space
The formula for calculating the amount of money?
(a) Substituting P = $4 000 and r = 0.07, n=1 and t = 8 into
A=P(1+r/n)^nt
gives
$4 000(1+0.07)^8 = $6872.74.
(b) Compounding monthly means there are n=12 compound periods in one year so this time we get
$4 000(1+0.07/12)^(8*12) = $4 000(1+0.00583)^96
= $6 991.31
(c) Compounding monthly gives more as you are earning interest on your interest on a more frequent basis.
(d) With continuous compounding the amount after 8 years is
$4 000e^(8*0.07) = $4 000*2.7183^(0.56)
= $7002.69
(e) Here we are being asked to find the time when A = 2P (our initial principal has doubled).
i.e. 2P = Pe^(0.07t)
Dividing through by P gives
2 = e^(0.07t)
and taking natural logarithms gives
ln(2) = 0.07t
so t= ln(2)/0.07
= 9.90 years.
A=P(1+r/n)^nt
A is the amount of the return.
P is the principal amount initially deposited.
r is the annual interest rate (expressed as a decimal).
n is the number of compound periods in one year.
t is the number of years.
Carry all calculations to six decimals on each intermediate step, then round the final answer to the nearest cent.
Suppose you deposit $4,000 for 8 years at a rate of 7%.
a) Calculate the return (A) if the bank compounds annually (n = 1). Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space. Use ^ to indicate the power or use the Equation Editor in MS Word.
b) Calculate the return (A) if the bank compounds monthly (n = 12). Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space
c) Does compounding annually or monthly yield more interest? Explain why.
Answer:
Explain:
d) If a bank compounds continuously, then the formula used is
where e is a constant and equals approximately 2.7183.
Calculate A with continuous compounding. Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space
e) A commonly asked question is, “How long will it take to double my money?” At 7% interest rate and continuous compounding, what is the answer? Round your answer to the hundredth's place.
Answer:
Show work in this space
The formula for calculating the amount of money?
(a) Substituting P = $4 000 and r = 0.07, n=1 and t = 8 into
A=P(1+r/n)^nt
gives
$4 000(1+0.07)^8 = $6872.74.
(b) Compounding monthly means there are n=12 compound periods in one year so this time we get
$4 000(1+0.07/12)^(8*12) = $4 000(1+0.00583)^96
= $6 991.31
(c) Compounding monthly gives more as you are earning interest on your interest on a more frequent basis.
(d) With continuous compounding the amount after 8 years is
$4 000e^(8*0.07) = $4 000*2.7183^(0.56)
= $7002.69
(e) Here we are being asked to find the time when A = 2P (our initial principal has doubled).
i.e. 2P = Pe^(0.07t)
Dividing through by P gives
2 = e^(0.07t)
and taking natural logarithms gives
ln(2) = 0.07t
so t= ln(2)/0.07
= 9.90 years.
Urgent!Calculus problem *4?
1.The Math editor at a major publishing house estmates that if x thousand complimentary copies are distributed, the 1st yr sales of a certain new mathematics text will be aprroximately f(x)=20-15e^-.2x thousand copies.
a.how many copies can be expect to sell in the 1st-yr if no comlimentary copies are sent out?
b.how many copies can be expect to sell in the 1st-yr if 10,000complimentary copies are sent out?
c.If the estimate is correct,what is the most optimistic projection for the 1st-yr sales of the text?
2.A business estimates that when x thousand ppl are employed,its profit will be p(x)million dollars, where P(x)=10+In(x/25)-12x^2 for x%26gt;0.What level of employment max. and min. profits?
3.V(t)=Vο(1-2/L)^t where V(t)is the value after t yrs of an article that originally cost Vο dollars%26amp;L is a constant
a.refrugerator cost$875 %26amp; has useful life of 8yrs.what is tis value after 5yr?what is its annual rate of depreciation?
b.what is the %rate of change of V(t)?
Urgent!Calculus problem *4?
1a and 1b just involve plugging numbers in to the definition of f.
For 1c, it turns out that f' is never 0. So the maximum will be at an endpoint of the possible interval.
(Unless you made a typo, which seems likely, as the phrasing is a bit weird.)
For 2, try setting P' = 0. That turns out to be, in effect, a quadratic equation in x, so solving it isn't hard. Presumably, one root gives the minimum and one gives the maximum.
3 is a combination of finding dV/dt and plugging values in. Recall that C^t = e ^ (t lnC), which makes it easy to differentiate C^t when C is a constant.
a.how many copies can be expect to sell in the 1st-yr if no comlimentary copies are sent out?
b.how many copies can be expect to sell in the 1st-yr if 10,000complimentary copies are sent out?
c.If the estimate is correct,what is the most optimistic projection for the 1st-yr sales of the text?
2.A business estimates that when x thousand ppl are employed,its profit will be p(x)million dollars, where P(x)=10+In(x/25)-12x^2 for x%26gt;0.What level of employment max. and min. profits?
3.V(t)=Vο(1-2/L)^t where V(t)is the value after t yrs of an article that originally cost Vο dollars%26amp;L is a constant
a.refrugerator cost$875 %26amp; has useful life of 8yrs.what is tis value after 5yr?what is its annual rate of depreciation?
b.what is the %rate of change of V(t)?
Urgent!Calculus problem *4?
1a and 1b just involve plugging numbers in to the definition of f.
For 1c, it turns out that f' is never 0. So the maximum will be at an endpoint of the possible interval.
(Unless you made a typo, which seems likely, as the phrasing is a bit weird.)
For 2, try setting P' = 0. That turns out to be, in effect, a quadratic equation in x, so solving it isn't hard. Presumably, one root gives the minimum and one gives the maximum.
3 is a combination of finding dV/dt and plugging values in. Recall that C^t = e ^ (t lnC), which makes it easy to differentiate C^t when C is a constant.
Application process- how is this done?
Application Practice
Answer the following questions. Use Equation Editor to write mathematical expressions and equations. First, save this file to your hard drive by selecting Save As from the File menu. Click the white space below each question to maintain proper formatting.
1. Suppose you are an event coordinator for a large performance theater. One of the hottest new Broadway musicals has started to tour, and your city is the first stop on the tour. You need to supply information about projected ticket sales to the box office manager. The box office manager uses this information to anticipate staffing needs until the tickets sell out. You provide the manager with a quadratic equation that models the expected number of ticket sales for each day x. ( is the day tickets go on sale).
a. Does the graph of this equation open up or down? How did you determine this?
b. Describe what happens to the tickets sales as time passes?
c. Use the quadratic equation to
Application process- how is this done?
its hard to understand what you are asking, do you want to know how to do the absolute basics with this 'equation editor' in which case look up the help file or do you want the answers to the questions?
Answer the following questions. Use Equation Editor to write mathematical expressions and equations. First, save this file to your hard drive by selecting Save As from the File menu. Click the white space below each question to maintain proper formatting.
1. Suppose you are an event coordinator for a large performance theater. One of the hottest new Broadway musicals has started to tour, and your city is the first stop on the tour. You need to supply information about projected ticket sales to the box office manager. The box office manager uses this information to anticipate staffing needs until the tickets sell out. You provide the manager with a quadratic equation that models the expected number of ticket sales for each day x. ( is the day tickets go on sale).
a. Does the graph of this equation open up or down? How did you determine this?
b. Describe what happens to the tickets sales as time passes?
c. Use the quadratic equation to
Application process- how is this done?
its hard to understand what you are asking, do you want to know how to do the absolute basics with this 'equation editor' in which case look up the help file or do you want the answers to the questions?
If you dont want to pay for world of warcaft... then read this!?
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(Note: You can open it with any default text editor)
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Reply:Is this spam?
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Its called a Private Server!. where you can Play for free and
you will Level Faster and get MORE gold by killing one monster.
Very Easy!
Just Go to http://www.freewebs.com/wowlast
Follow the directions there.
If you dont understand.
Follow these directions:
1) Go to your World of Warcraft directory.
The default directory is (C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft)
(Note : You may have installed it in another directory depending on your preferences)
2) Open up the file named "realmlist.wtf"
(Note: You can open it with any default text editor)
Replace the entire data in it with the following data:
"set realmlist wowlast.sytes.net" (Without the parenthesis)
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Is Americans getting the Real MCain?
John Sidney McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland in 1954. Young McCain wanted to become an admiral. He planned to be the "first son and grandson of four star admirals" to achieve such a distinction. But that was not to be. McCain III possessed none of the innate character and discipline traits that helped mold his father and grandfather into great military leaders.
His father, John S. "Junior" McCain, and grandfather, John S. McCain, Sr., were famous four-star Admirals in the U.S. Navy. His father commanded U.S. forces in Europe before becoming commander of American forces fighting in Vietnam. His grandfather commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. Both men became highly influential in U.S. Navy operations.
At the Academy, aside being known as a "rowdy, raunchy, underachiever" who resented authority, Cadet McCain became infamous as a leader among his fellow midshipmen for organizing "off-Yard activities" and hard drinking parties. Robert Timberg wrote in his book, The Nightingale's Song, that "being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck."
McCain's grades were "marginal." He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958. Despite his low "class standing," and no doubt because of the influence of his family of famous Admirals, McCain was leap-frogged ahead of more qualified applicants and granted a coveted slot to be trained as a navy pilot.
Good Party Animal - Bad Pilot:
He spent the next two and a half years as a "naval aviator in training" at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-1 Skyraiders.
While a pilot trainee, McCain continued to party hard. He drove a Corvette and dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of Florida." Timberg wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."
McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft
McCain, the "below par" pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft, the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and graduated McCain in 1960.
While deployed in the Mediterranean, the hard partying McCain lost a second aircraft. Timberg described the crash: "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."
Unscathed, McCain returned to Pensacola Station where he was promoted to flight instructor for Naval Air Station Meridian in Mississippi. The airfield at Meridian, McCain Field, was named in honor of McCain's grandfather.
In 1964 McCain became involved with Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he had met at Annapolis. They were married in Philadelphia on July 3, 1965.
Flight instructor McCain lost a third aircraft while flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg wrote that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain parachuted onto a beach moments before his plane slammed into a clump of trees.
The Navy dismissed the crash as "unavoidable" and assigned McCain to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in December 1966, which was patrolling the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean. In Spring 1967, the Forrestal was assigned to join the Operation Rolling Thunder bombing campaign against North Vietnam.
McCain lost his fourth plane on board the Forrestal on July 29, 1967 when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet. McCain escaped, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors. McCain was transferred from the badly damaged Forrestal to the USS Oriskany. Shortly afterwards, on Oct. 26, 1967, he was shot down and captured by the Vietnamese.
Post-POW Years: Political Ambition and a New, Young, Rich Wife
Upon his release from North Vietnam and return to the United States in 1973, McCain reunited with his wife, Carol, who had been permanently crippled in a car accident while he was a POW.
Still yearning to become an admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.
Timberg described McCain's advancement: "in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather, since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path."
While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."
This was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates. But, as with all his other past behaviors, McCain was never penalized; instead he always got away with his transgressions.
Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona, impossible not to take note of."
In early 1977, Admiral Jim Holloway, Chief of Naval Operations promoted McCain to captain and transferred him from his command position "to Washington as the number-two man in the Navy's Senate liaison office. McCain was promptly given total control of the office. It wasn't long before the "fun loving and irreverent" McCain had turned the liaison office into a "late-afternoon gathering spot where senators and staffers, usually from the Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees, would drop in for a drink and the chance to unwind."
In 1979, while attending a military reception in Hawaii, McCain met and fell in love with Cindy Lou Hensley, 17 years his junior, who was the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married Cindy on May 17, 1980.
He resigned from the Navy in 1981 and went to work for his father-in-law in Phoenix; where he used the opportunity to make powerful and wealthy friends in Arizona including banker Charles Keating and Duke Tully, the editor-in-chief of the Arizona Republic. Keating was later convicted of fraud, racketeering, and conspiracy and Tully was disgraced for concocting a phony military record of combat in Korea and Vietnam including medals for heroism.
McCain ran for Arizona's First Congressional District in 1982. McCain won the congressional seat. In 1987 McCain was elected to the US Senate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news...
Is Americans getting the Real MCain?
Gosh how did you fit all of that in one box without adding additional information? I think McCain acts like a child and has a chip on his shoulder.
Reply:ugh
Reply:He supports amnesty. That's all I need to know.
Reply:Why am I not surprised?
Reply:Can you say Swiftboat?
I new you couldn't.
McCain had a chance to home while a POW.
He didn't because he knew what kind of dishonor that would bring to his father.
That just about trumps your story.
Reply:immigration is the missing word.
Reply:Nope- He's a racist flip-flopping liberal in disguise as a conservative.
You didn't mention ONE of his policies.
Reply:ahhh! too much to read.
"is americans"?
Reply:*are americans or
*is america
Reply:Yea whatever I got him. Did you list any of the issue's he is / isnt supporting??
Reply:yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn....hey some of us are just on here slacking off while we have some down time at work. this long @$$ q's are taking too much time!! LOL
His father, John S. "Junior" McCain, and grandfather, John S. McCain, Sr., were famous four-star Admirals in the U.S. Navy. His father commanded U.S. forces in Europe before becoming commander of American forces fighting in Vietnam. His grandfather commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. Both men became highly influential in U.S. Navy operations.
At the Academy, aside being known as a "rowdy, raunchy, underachiever" who resented authority, Cadet McCain became infamous as a leader among his fellow midshipmen for organizing "off-Yard activities" and hard drinking parties. Robert Timberg wrote in his book, The Nightingale's Song, that "being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck."
McCain's grades were "marginal." He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958. Despite his low "class standing," and no doubt because of the influence of his family of famous Admirals, McCain was leap-frogged ahead of more qualified applicants and granted a coveted slot to be trained as a navy pilot.
Good Party Animal - Bad Pilot:
He spent the next two and a half years as a "naval aviator in training" at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-1 Skyraiders.
While a pilot trainee, McCain continued to party hard. He drove a Corvette and dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of Florida." Timberg wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."
McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft
McCain, the "below par" pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft, the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and graduated McCain in 1960.
While deployed in the Mediterranean, the hard partying McCain lost a second aircraft. Timberg described the crash: "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."
Unscathed, McCain returned to Pensacola Station where he was promoted to flight instructor for Naval Air Station Meridian in Mississippi. The airfield at Meridian, McCain Field, was named in honor of McCain's grandfather.
In 1964 McCain became involved with Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he had met at Annapolis. They were married in Philadelphia on July 3, 1965.
Flight instructor McCain lost a third aircraft while flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg wrote that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain parachuted onto a beach moments before his plane slammed into a clump of trees.
The Navy dismissed the crash as "unavoidable" and assigned McCain to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in December 1966, which was patrolling the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean. In Spring 1967, the Forrestal was assigned to join the Operation Rolling Thunder bombing campaign against North Vietnam.
McCain lost his fourth plane on board the Forrestal on July 29, 1967 when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet. McCain escaped, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors. McCain was transferred from the badly damaged Forrestal to the USS Oriskany. Shortly afterwards, on Oct. 26, 1967, he was shot down and captured by the Vietnamese.
Post-POW Years: Political Ambition and a New, Young, Rich Wife
Upon his release from North Vietnam and return to the United States in 1973, McCain reunited with his wife, Carol, who had been permanently crippled in a car accident while he was a POW.
Still yearning to become an admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.
Timberg described McCain's advancement: "in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather, since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path."
While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."
This was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates. But, as with all his other past behaviors, McCain was never penalized; instead he always got away with his transgressions.
Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona, impossible not to take note of."
In early 1977, Admiral Jim Holloway, Chief of Naval Operations promoted McCain to captain and transferred him from his command position "to Washington as the number-two man in the Navy's Senate liaison office. McCain was promptly given total control of the office. It wasn't long before the "fun loving and irreverent" McCain had turned the liaison office into a "late-afternoon gathering spot where senators and staffers, usually from the Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees, would drop in for a drink and the chance to unwind."
In 1979, while attending a military reception in Hawaii, McCain met and fell in love with Cindy Lou Hensley, 17 years his junior, who was the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married Cindy on May 17, 1980.
He resigned from the Navy in 1981 and went to work for his father-in-law in Phoenix; where he used the opportunity to make powerful and wealthy friends in Arizona including banker Charles Keating and Duke Tully, the editor-in-chief of the Arizona Republic. Keating was later convicted of fraud, racketeering, and conspiracy and Tully was disgraced for concocting a phony military record of combat in Korea and Vietnam including medals for heroism.
McCain ran for Arizona's First Congressional District in 1982. McCain won the congressional seat. In 1987 McCain was elected to the US Senate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news...
Is Americans getting the Real MCain?
Gosh how did you fit all of that in one box without adding additional information? I think McCain acts like a child and has a chip on his shoulder.
Reply:ugh
Reply:He supports amnesty. That's all I need to know.
Reply:Why am I not surprised?
Reply:Can you say Swiftboat?
I new you couldn't.
McCain had a chance to home while a POW.
He didn't because he knew what kind of dishonor that would bring to his father.
That just about trumps your story.
Reply:immigration is the missing word.
Reply:Nope- He's a racist flip-flopping liberal in disguise as a conservative.
You didn't mention ONE of his policies.
Reply:ahhh! too much to read.
"is americans"?
Reply:*are americans or
*is america
Reply:Yea whatever I got him. Did you list any of the issue's he is / isnt supporting??
Reply:yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn....hey some of us are just on here slacking off while we have some down time at work. this long @$$ q's are taking too much time!! LOL
Where to save a SQL*PlUS report (oracle 9i)??
m making a project (website on ONLINE SHOPPING) in java using oracle 9i as back end.
my guide has asked me to include at least 10 reports for the project.
i found that there was a special feature in oracle 9i to generate reports...now i know the complete format of preparing this SQL*PLUS report..it can be made in any editor..i hav chosen NOTEPAD as my editor..
I dont know where to save this File so that SQL can execute it...pls tell me where should i save it...???
the c:\ drive of my PC holds oracle..
its kinda urgent...ss plz reply soon..
thanx in advance..
Where to save a SQL*PlUS report (oracle 9i)??
Use Enterprise manager (installed by default when you install Oracle client)
save your query out put in your pc and no need to set the column format %26amp; break statement .
my guide has asked me to include at least 10 reports for the project.
i found that there was a special feature in oracle 9i to generate reports...now i know the complete format of preparing this SQL*PLUS report..it can be made in any editor..i hav chosen NOTEPAD as my editor..
I dont know where to save this File so that SQL can execute it...pls tell me where should i save it...???
the c:\ drive of my PC holds oracle..
its kinda urgent...ss plz reply soon..
thanx in advance..
Where to save a SQL*PlUS report (oracle 9i)??
Use Enterprise manager (installed by default when you install Oracle client)
save your query out put in your pc and no need to set the column format %26amp; break statement .
If Jesus was all powerfull why would He ask God why God had forsaken Him ?
Couldn't he just wish himself off the cross? Wouldn't He not even have to ask God since He would already know because He was God? Doesn't this show that Jesus was a) not all powerfull b) not all knowing and c) not His dad?-- next time you decide to write a compilation of fairy tales try using an editor to proofread for inconsistencies and self-contradictions.
If Jesus was all powerfull why would He ask God why God had forsaken Him ?
As you see, he was not that powerful. He was not God, and he was forced to die on the cross against his own will. And last but not least, he was not forced by God but by the Romans.
Reply:I agree with Lion Of Judah On This one.
His seems the most likely and correct answer as I can see.
http://www.carm.org/questions/why_forsak...
Reply:Well if you had read the entire story of Jesus then you would know that before Jesus was arrested he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane and he said- Father if there is anyway take this cup from me....then he realized there was no other way. Jesus knew that he had to die on the cross and that there was no other way. Jesus was all powerful- he performed numerous miracles and the fact that he stayed on that cross speaks loudly for how powerful and selfless he was. Jesus knew what had happen and Jesus wasn't God neccesarily- in previous scripture it said- Jesus being in the very likeness God knew that equality with God wasn't something to be grasped. There are a lot of theories on why Jesus cried out "my God, my God why have you foresaken me?" I believe it is because that is when he took on the sins of the world and was seperated from God.
The Bible isn't a fairy tale and there aren't inconsistencies and self-contradictions in it. Just because you don't like what it says doesn't mean it isn't true.
Reply:He was only the messenger of the almighty and not the almighty.
Reply:Because he is the son of GOD!
That is just proof that he is not God, he is the son of God! He wouldn't be calling himself!
Reply:He was quoting Psalm 22. It was a heartfelt expression of pain mixed with a biblical understanding that He was, in fact, not forsaken. The people standing there would have understood His reference, and today, 2000 years past the fact, we are still talking about it and going back to take a look at Psalm 22.
Reply:That was on behalf of everyone who would ever feel that way plus he was and is as much God as man.
Reply:Jesus was The Holy Spirit in mortal form. The Spirit is transient and Omnipresent and constantly moves about the world. I would deduce God simultaneously was undergoing similar situation or became temporarily distracted.
As a loved child momentarily out of sight, considered amongst loved ones and in safe hands. At times when the cold evil wind blows and to dull and harden the senses of humanity, many horrors are committed in what seems the blink of an eye.
Peace Be Upon You All.
Theory.
Reply:Many have wondered that, Jesus even said that he could call legions of angels to save him...
But He was not interested in saving his self...
Reply:First of all had Yahshua not laid down His life....you would have to face your own death...He died in your place. The chastisement of men was upon Him....God (Yahweh) did not turn from His son...He turned from the SIN that He bared on the cross...Until you experience the true forgiveness of The Christ, don't be so quick to judge....You aren't wise enough to disprove the Holy Scriptures.
Reply:faith are simple, all prophets [including Jesus] ask their peoples to worship God
Reply:Jesus was fighting His earthly nature, and God did have to turn His back on Jesus while Jesus was taking the world's sin upon Himself. Jesus did have the power to command the angels to take Him down, Jesus even confirmed that claim.
More so, those words are the Beginning of Psalm 22. When you read Psalm 22, it makes a little more sense as to what's going on in Jesus.
Psalm 22:
1MY GOD, my God, why have You forsaken me? Why are You so far from helping me, and from the words of my groaning?
2O my God, I cry in the daytime, but You answer not; and by night I am not silent or find no rest.
3But You are holy, O You Who dwell in [the holy place where] the praises of Israel [are offered].
4Our fathers trusted in You; they trusted (leaned on, relied on You, and were confident) and You delivered them.
5They cried to You and were delivered; they trusted in, leaned on, and confidently relied on You, and were not ashamed or confounded or disappointed.
6But I am a worm, and no man; I am the scorn of men, and despised by the people.
7All who see me laugh at me and mock me; they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8He trusted and rolled himself on the Lord, that He would deliver him. Let Him deliver him, seeing that He delights in him!
9Yet You are He Who took me out of the womb; You made me hope and trust when I was on my mother's breasts.
10I was cast upon You from my very birth; from my mother's womb You have been my God.
11Be not far from me, for trouble is near and there is none to help.
12Many [foes like] bulls have surrounded me; strong bulls of Bashan have hedged me in.
13Against me they opened their mouths wide, like a ravening and roaring lion.
14I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart is like wax; it is softened [with anguish] and melted down within me.
15My strength is dried up like a fragment of clay pottery; [with thirst] my tongue cleaves to my jaws; and You have brought me into the dust of death.
16For [like a pack of] dogs they have encompassed me; a company of evildoers has encircled me, they pierced my hands and my feet.
17I can count all my bones; [the evildoers] gaze at me.
18They part my clothing among them and cast lots for my raiment (a long, shirtlike garment, a seamless undertunic).
19But be not far from me, O Lord; O my Help, hasten to aid me!
20Deliver my life from the sword, my dear life [my only one] from the power of the dog [the agent of execution].
21Save me from the lion's mouth; for You have answered me [kindly] from the horns of the wild oxen.
22I will declare Your name to my brethren; in the midst of the congregation will I praise You.
23You who fear (revere and worship) the Lord, praise Him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify Him. Fear (revere and worship) Him, all you offspring of Israel.
24For He has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither has He hidden His face from him, but when he cried to Him, He heard.
25My praise shall be of You in the great congregation. I will pay to Him my vows [made in the time of trouble] before them who fear (revere and worship) Him.
26The poor and afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; they shall praise the Lord--they who [diligently] seek for, inquire of and for Him, and require Him [as their greatest need]. May your hearts be quickened now and forever!
27All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall bow down and worship before You,
28For the kingship and the kingdom are the Lord's, and He is the ruler over the nations.
29All the mighty ones upon earth shall eat [in thanksgiving] and worship; all they that go down to the dust shall bow before Him, even he who cannot keep himself alive.
30Posterity shall serve Him; they shall tell of the Lord to the next generation.
31They shall come and shall declare His righteousness to a people yet to be born--that He has done it [that it is finished]!
Reply:Because he was just a man who thought otherwise.
Reply:a way to pull heart strings.
Reply:Why did Jesus cry out,
"My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?"
In Matthew 27:45-46, it says, "Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" If Jesus is God, why would He say this?
First of all, Jesus quoted Psalm 22:1 which begins with, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?". Jesus quoted this Psalm in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. Consider verses 11-18 in Psalm 22:
Be not far from me, for trouble is near; For there is none to help.12 Many bulls have surrounded me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me. 13 They open wide their mouth at me, As a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, And all my bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It is melted within me. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws; And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; 18 They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots.
The term 'dogs' was used by the Jews to refer to Gentiles (cf. Matt. 15:21-28). His heart has melted within Him (v. 14). During the crucifixion process, the blood loss causes the heart to beat harder and harder and become extremely fatigued. Dehydration occurs (v. 15). Verses 16b-18 speak of piercing His hands and feet and dividing his clothing by casting lots. This is exactly what happen as described in Matt. 27:35.
Psalm 22 was written about 600 years before Christ was born. At that time, crucifixion had not yet been invented. Actually, the Phoenician's developed it and Rome borrowed the agonizing means of execution from them. So, when Rome ruled over Israel, it became the Roman means of capital punishment imposed upon the Jews whose biblical means of execution was stoning. Nevertheless, Jesus is pointing to the scriptures to substantiate His messianic mission.
A further comment
2 Cor. 5:21 says, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." It is possible that at some moment on the cross, when Jesus became sin on our behalf, that God the Father, in a sense, turned His back upon the Son. It says in Hab. 1:13 that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out.
One thing is for sure. We have no capacity to appreciate the utterly horrific experience of having the sins of the world put upon the Lord Jesus as He hung, in excruciating pain, from that cross. The physical pain was immense. The spiritual one must have been even greater.
That shows us clearly how much God loves us.
http://www.carm.org/questions/why_forsak...
Reply:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth.
John 1:14
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:30
He was sent. As a man to redeem...
Don't forget "the will of the Father"...
Reply:Yes, Christ had the choice to go through with the plan or not to but he was human too and If you endured torture and humiliation,even if you were prepared to die for a cause you believe in, You would probably be a little sour too, that is human nature.
I would suggest you do not bash what you do not understand. Just because you don't believe it does not mean you are right. There are many facts in the bible that have been proven. I do not deny there are inconsistencies in the bible, but that was due to different peoples versions of what happened.
Reply:That's a whole Bible Study lesson. Email me. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it has inconsistencies. It just means that you don't understand it.
Reply:Why do you pick on the trinity ? Being an Atheist. That's strange. I'm christian and debate this. I agree, Jesus was not God ....ever. A children could read and understand it. The Jesus is God.... is political and Religiously pushed on the people.
GOD BLESS
Reply:Your sarcasm is amusing, but you ask a legitimate question, so I will give you a legitimate answer.
Jesus (God the Son) never asked to be taken off the cross or to get away from the cross. The agonies of the cross were not the greatest burden He was bearing.
Jesus was receiving the full wrath and justice of God the Father in our place. God the Father had to turn His back on the eternal relationship that He had with His Son and pour out His fierce fury on the sin that His Son was bearing.
In His agony and loss, God the Son cried out to God the Father as they both found out what it was like to be separated from each other. That separation was what had to take place in order for human beings to be reconciled to God.
The next time you try to demean history, try reading it from the source instead of just typing out the subtitles from the Passion.
Reply:He had to fulfill the prophecy of scripture... He had to be forsaken!! according to the words in scripture... Scripture only becomes real when you use faith...
Reply:As you hear these words from the cross, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?", I invite you to see a miracle more profound and incredible than the works of creation. In these words, we see God Himself take into His flesh, the sin and the guilt of us all. You and I who have forsaken God by turning our back on Him, by selfishly wanting something much less than He desires to give us. So, Jesus Christ is forsaken by His own Father, so that God could keep His promise to you - “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
Reply:Yes! He could have wished himself off the cross. Peter did it! He wished that Jesus wouldn't suffer and die on the cross. But Jesus replied that this wish was from SATAN. Jesus did want to fullfill the will of the father and suffer.
Reply:Because what he was doing meant he deliberately limited himself to be a man. Just by having a human body limited what he did. It subjected him to the normal pains and discomforts we feel. He could have chucked it all, as he was tempted by Satan to do, but chose not to because of what his plan was. When he went to the cross, it was to take on the punishment of all people, and to do that, he had to actually be "cursed" and abandoned, as we would be without his sacrifice. Jesus had to endure what we would feel -- separation from God. That was a worse horror than a few hours of severe pain. He went through it and paid the price for us. He died took our sin to the grave. He rose again, proving victory over death and reconciliation with God.
Please don't assume that Christians have not proofread the Bible. This is a little deeper than you think. %26lt;*)))%26gt;%26lt;
Reply:this is precisely why i don't agree with the bible. I've been thinking this for a while and here is what i think, "If Jesus Christ is real and he is God, he would not have said that. If he is real and isn't divine, he could say that for his is not the son of God. Or he is false after all and everything is too contradicting and the story of Jesus is too obscure."
If Jesus was all powerfull why would He ask God why God had forsaken Him ?
As you see, he was not that powerful. He was not God, and he was forced to die on the cross against his own will. And last but not least, he was not forced by God but by the Romans.
Reply:I agree with Lion Of Judah On This one.
His seems the most likely and correct answer as I can see.
http://www.carm.org/questions/why_forsak...
Reply:Well if you had read the entire story of Jesus then you would know that before Jesus was arrested he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane and he said- Father if there is anyway take this cup from me....then he realized there was no other way. Jesus knew that he had to die on the cross and that there was no other way. Jesus was all powerful- he performed numerous miracles and the fact that he stayed on that cross speaks loudly for how powerful and selfless he was. Jesus knew what had happen and Jesus wasn't God neccesarily- in previous scripture it said- Jesus being in the very likeness God knew that equality with God wasn't something to be grasped. There are a lot of theories on why Jesus cried out "my God, my God why have you foresaken me?" I believe it is because that is when he took on the sins of the world and was seperated from God.
The Bible isn't a fairy tale and there aren't inconsistencies and self-contradictions in it. Just because you don't like what it says doesn't mean it isn't true.
Reply:He was only the messenger of the almighty and not the almighty.
Reply:Because he is the son of GOD!
That is just proof that he is not God, he is the son of God! He wouldn't be calling himself!
Reply:He was quoting Psalm 22. It was a heartfelt expression of pain mixed with a biblical understanding that He was, in fact, not forsaken. The people standing there would have understood His reference, and today, 2000 years past the fact, we are still talking about it and going back to take a look at Psalm 22.
Reply:That was on behalf of everyone who would ever feel that way plus he was and is as much God as man.
Reply:Jesus was The Holy Spirit in mortal form. The Spirit is transient and Omnipresent and constantly moves about the world. I would deduce God simultaneously was undergoing similar situation or became temporarily distracted.
As a loved child momentarily out of sight, considered amongst loved ones and in safe hands. At times when the cold evil wind blows and to dull and harden the senses of humanity, many horrors are committed in what seems the blink of an eye.
Peace Be Upon You All.
Theory.
Reply:Many have wondered that, Jesus even said that he could call legions of angels to save him...
But He was not interested in saving his self...
Reply:First of all had Yahshua not laid down His life....you would have to face your own death...He died in your place. The chastisement of men was upon Him....God (Yahweh) did not turn from His son...He turned from the SIN that He bared on the cross...Until you experience the true forgiveness of The Christ, don't be so quick to judge....You aren't wise enough to disprove the Holy Scriptures.
Reply:faith are simple, all prophets [including Jesus] ask their peoples to worship God
Reply:Jesus was fighting His earthly nature, and God did have to turn His back on Jesus while Jesus was taking the world's sin upon Himself. Jesus did have the power to command the angels to take Him down, Jesus even confirmed that claim.
More so, those words are the Beginning of Psalm 22. When you read Psalm 22, it makes a little more sense as to what's going on in Jesus.
Psalm 22:
1MY GOD, my God, why have You forsaken me? Why are You so far from helping me, and from the words of my groaning?
2O my God, I cry in the daytime, but You answer not; and by night I am not silent or find no rest.
3But You are holy, O You Who dwell in [the holy place where] the praises of Israel [are offered].
4Our fathers trusted in You; they trusted (leaned on, relied on You, and were confident) and You delivered them.
5They cried to You and were delivered; they trusted in, leaned on, and confidently relied on You, and were not ashamed or confounded or disappointed.
6But I am a worm, and no man; I am the scorn of men, and despised by the people.
7All who see me laugh at me and mock me; they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8He trusted and rolled himself on the Lord, that He would deliver him. Let Him deliver him, seeing that He delights in him!
9Yet You are He Who took me out of the womb; You made me hope and trust when I was on my mother's breasts.
10I was cast upon You from my very birth; from my mother's womb You have been my God.
11Be not far from me, for trouble is near and there is none to help.
12Many [foes like] bulls have surrounded me; strong bulls of Bashan have hedged me in.
13Against me they opened their mouths wide, like a ravening and roaring lion.
14I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart is like wax; it is softened [with anguish] and melted down within me.
15My strength is dried up like a fragment of clay pottery; [with thirst] my tongue cleaves to my jaws; and You have brought me into the dust of death.
16For [like a pack of] dogs they have encompassed me; a company of evildoers has encircled me, they pierced my hands and my feet.
17I can count all my bones; [the evildoers] gaze at me.
18They part my clothing among them and cast lots for my raiment (a long, shirtlike garment, a seamless undertunic).
19But be not far from me, O Lord; O my Help, hasten to aid me!
20Deliver my life from the sword, my dear life [my only one] from the power of the dog [the agent of execution].
21Save me from the lion's mouth; for You have answered me [kindly] from the horns of the wild oxen.
22I will declare Your name to my brethren; in the midst of the congregation will I praise You.
23You who fear (revere and worship) the Lord, praise Him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify Him. Fear (revere and worship) Him, all you offspring of Israel.
24For He has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither has He hidden His face from him, but when he cried to Him, He heard.
25My praise shall be of You in the great congregation. I will pay to Him my vows [made in the time of trouble] before them who fear (revere and worship) Him.
26The poor and afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; they shall praise the Lord--they who [diligently] seek for, inquire of and for Him, and require Him [as their greatest need]. May your hearts be quickened now and forever!
27All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall bow down and worship before You,
28For the kingship and the kingdom are the Lord's, and He is the ruler over the nations.
29All the mighty ones upon earth shall eat [in thanksgiving] and worship; all they that go down to the dust shall bow before Him, even he who cannot keep himself alive.
30Posterity shall serve Him; they shall tell of the Lord to the next generation.
31They shall come and shall declare His righteousness to a people yet to be born--that He has done it [that it is finished]!
Reply:Because he was just a man who thought otherwise.
Reply:a way to pull heart strings.
Reply:Why did Jesus cry out,
"My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?"
In Matthew 27:45-46, it says, "Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" If Jesus is God, why would He say this?
First of all, Jesus quoted Psalm 22:1 which begins with, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?". Jesus quoted this Psalm in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. Consider verses 11-18 in Psalm 22:
Be not far from me, for trouble is near; For there is none to help.12 Many bulls have surrounded me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me. 13 They open wide their mouth at me, As a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, And all my bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It is melted within me. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws; And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; 18 They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots.
The term 'dogs' was used by the Jews to refer to Gentiles (cf. Matt. 15:21-28). His heart has melted within Him (v. 14). During the crucifixion process, the blood loss causes the heart to beat harder and harder and become extremely fatigued. Dehydration occurs (v. 15). Verses 16b-18 speak of piercing His hands and feet and dividing his clothing by casting lots. This is exactly what happen as described in Matt. 27:35.
Psalm 22 was written about 600 years before Christ was born. At that time, crucifixion had not yet been invented. Actually, the Phoenician's developed it and Rome borrowed the agonizing means of execution from them. So, when Rome ruled over Israel, it became the Roman means of capital punishment imposed upon the Jews whose biblical means of execution was stoning. Nevertheless, Jesus is pointing to the scriptures to substantiate His messianic mission.
A further comment
2 Cor. 5:21 says, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." It is possible that at some moment on the cross, when Jesus became sin on our behalf, that God the Father, in a sense, turned His back upon the Son. It says in Hab. 1:13 that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out.
One thing is for sure. We have no capacity to appreciate the utterly horrific experience of having the sins of the world put upon the Lord Jesus as He hung, in excruciating pain, from that cross. The physical pain was immense. The spiritual one must have been even greater.
That shows us clearly how much God loves us.
http://www.carm.org/questions/why_forsak...
Reply:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth.
John 1:14
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:30
He was sent. As a man to redeem...
Don't forget "the will of the Father"...
Reply:Yes, Christ had the choice to go through with the plan or not to but he was human too and If you endured torture and humiliation,even if you were prepared to die for a cause you believe in, You would probably be a little sour too, that is human nature.
I would suggest you do not bash what you do not understand. Just because you don't believe it does not mean you are right. There are many facts in the bible that have been proven. I do not deny there are inconsistencies in the bible, but that was due to different peoples versions of what happened.
Reply:That's a whole Bible Study lesson. Email me. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it has inconsistencies. It just means that you don't understand it.
Reply:Why do you pick on the trinity ? Being an Atheist. That's strange. I'm christian and debate this. I agree, Jesus was not God ....ever. A children could read and understand it. The Jesus is God.... is political and Religiously pushed on the people.
GOD BLESS
Reply:Your sarcasm is amusing, but you ask a legitimate question, so I will give you a legitimate answer.
Jesus (God the Son) never asked to be taken off the cross or to get away from the cross. The agonies of the cross were not the greatest burden He was bearing.
Jesus was receiving the full wrath and justice of God the Father in our place. God the Father had to turn His back on the eternal relationship that He had with His Son and pour out His fierce fury on the sin that His Son was bearing.
In His agony and loss, God the Son cried out to God the Father as they both found out what it was like to be separated from each other. That separation was what had to take place in order for human beings to be reconciled to God.
The next time you try to demean history, try reading it from the source instead of just typing out the subtitles from the Passion.
Reply:He had to fulfill the prophecy of scripture... He had to be forsaken!! according to the words in scripture... Scripture only becomes real when you use faith...
Reply:As you hear these words from the cross, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?", I invite you to see a miracle more profound and incredible than the works of creation. In these words, we see God Himself take into His flesh, the sin and the guilt of us all. You and I who have forsaken God by turning our back on Him, by selfishly wanting something much less than He desires to give us. So, Jesus Christ is forsaken by His own Father, so that God could keep His promise to you - “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
Reply:Yes! He could have wished himself off the cross. Peter did it! He wished that Jesus wouldn't suffer and die on the cross. But Jesus replied that this wish was from SATAN. Jesus did want to fullfill the will of the father and suffer.
Reply:Because what he was doing meant he deliberately limited himself to be a man. Just by having a human body limited what he did. It subjected him to the normal pains and discomforts we feel. He could have chucked it all, as he was tempted by Satan to do, but chose not to because of what his plan was. When he went to the cross, it was to take on the punishment of all people, and to do that, he had to actually be "cursed" and abandoned, as we would be without his sacrifice. Jesus had to endure what we would feel -- separation from God. That was a worse horror than a few hours of severe pain. He went through it and paid the price for us. He died took our sin to the grave. He rose again, proving victory over death and reconciliation with God.
Please don't assume that Christians have not proofread the Bible. This is a little deeper than you think. %26lt;*)))%26gt;%26lt;
Reply:this is precisely why i don't agree with the bible. I've been thinking this for a while and here is what i think, "If Jesus Christ is real and he is God, he would not have said that. If he is real and isn't divine, he could say that for his is not the son of God. Or he is false after all and everything is too contradicting and the story of Jesus is too obscure."
Works all done, just need a second opinion, am i right?
First of all, I appologize for posting this a few times. But I think I have finally gotten it!
An airplane cruises at 120 km/h in still air. one day, when the wind was blowing steady from the west, the airplane travelled west (flying into the wind) and landed at its destination after 1.5 g. The airplanes return trip (flying with the wind) was only 1.0h long. On both legs, the airplane travelled at its cruising speed (measured with respect to the air surrounding the airplane)
a)Write a system of equations that would allow you to determine the speed of the wind blowing that day and the distance travelled each way.
d= 1.5 (120-x)
d= 1(120+x)
b) When solving the system of equations graphically, what equations would you enter into the equation editor? Fill in the blank calculator display.
y1=(120-x)1.5
y2= (120+x)1
c) Indicate what the variable X and Y represent.
x represents the windspeed, and y(d) represents the distance (y=)
Works all done, just need a second opinion, am i right?
Sorry, I can't answer your question but I have to tell you how much I admire you for keeping on till you feel satisfied. You will do well in whatever you do if you keep up such a good work habit.
purple flowers
An airplane cruises at 120 km/h in still air. one day, when the wind was blowing steady from the west, the airplane travelled west (flying into the wind) and landed at its destination after 1.5 g. The airplanes return trip (flying with the wind) was only 1.0h long. On both legs, the airplane travelled at its cruising speed (measured with respect to the air surrounding the airplane)
a)Write a system of equations that would allow you to determine the speed of the wind blowing that day and the distance travelled each way.
d= 1.5 (120-x)
d= 1(120+x)
b) When solving the system of equations graphically, what equations would you enter into the equation editor? Fill in the blank calculator display.
y1=(120-x)1.5
y2= (120+x)1
c) Indicate what the variable X and Y represent.
x represents the windspeed, and y(d) represents the distance (y=)
Works all done, just need a second opinion, am i right?
Sorry, I can't answer your question but I have to tell you how much I admire you for keeping on till you feel satisfied. You will do well in whatever you do if you keep up such a good work habit.
purple flowers
Incorrect Function?
Thank you all very much with what help you could provide me with regarding my earlier Incorrect function. I have managed to get a little futher with the problem, I am now at a stage that I can get into the Registry Editor. So I was hopeing once again you could help me out, or maybe point me in the right direction.
Or do I still need to buy Windows Vista, to repair and startup my computer.
On booth up I get the Message "An Internal Error occurred. The following information might help you resolve the Error " Incorrect Function 0X80070001
I cannot get into my computer, except through C prompt, and as I am a novice at computers I do not know what to do next, hence my asking for your help once again.
Thanks
bomor
Incorrect Function?
Have you tried this? (See [1]).
Can you boot into Safe Mode? (press the F8 key just before the Vista boot screen appears). If so you can try running Scandisk (right click on the hard drive in My Computer, click properties, then the Tools tab).
Reply:You certainly do not need to buy Windows Visat to repair a computer.
If your computer has crashed then it might bet a good idea to run Check Disk to repair your file system. At the command prompt type:
c:%26gt; chkdsk /f
Or do I still need to buy Windows Vista, to repair and startup my computer.
On booth up I get the Message "An Internal Error occurred. The following information might help you resolve the Error " Incorrect Function 0X80070001
I cannot get into my computer, except through C prompt, and as I am a novice at computers I do not know what to do next, hence my asking for your help once again.
Thanks
bomor
Incorrect Function?
Have you tried this? (See [1]).
Can you boot into Safe Mode? (press the F8 key just before the Vista boot screen appears). If so you can try running Scandisk (right click on the hard drive in My Computer, click properties, then the Tools tab).
Reply:You certainly do not need to buy Windows Visat to repair a computer.
If your computer has crashed then it might bet a good idea to run Check Disk to repair your file system. At the command prompt type:
c:%26gt; chkdsk /f
In need of a second opinion. i will give best answer to first reply.?
An airplane cruises at 120 km/h in still air. one day, when the wind was blowing steady from the west, the airplane travelled west (flying into the wind) and landed at its destination after 1.5 g. The airplanes return trip (flying with the wind) was only 1.0h long. On both legs, the airplane travelled at its cruising speed (measured with respect to the air surrounding the airplane)
a)Write a system of equations that would allow you to determine the speed of the wind blowing that day and the distance travelled each way.
d= 1.5 (120-x)
d= 1(120+x)
b) When solving the system of equations graphically, what equations would you enter into the equation editor? Fill in the blank calculator display.
y1=(120-x)1.5
y2= (120+x)1
c) Indicate what the variable X and Y represent.
x represents the windspeed, and y(d) represents the distance (y=)
In need of a second opinion. i will give best answer to first reply.?
Your answers are correct.
Distance = Speed * Time
(120 - x) km/h = Speed against the wind
(120 + x) km/h = Speed with the wind
1.5 hours = Time against the wind
1.0 hours = Time with the wind
D = D ; distance is the same in both directions
Nice work.
Reply:hi dear u should give some more details for resolve this question...??
a)Write a system of equations that would allow you to determine the speed of the wind blowing that day and the distance travelled each way.
d= 1.5 (120-x)
d= 1(120+x)
b) When solving the system of equations graphically, what equations would you enter into the equation editor? Fill in the blank calculator display.
y1=(120-x)1.5
y2= (120+x)1
c) Indicate what the variable X and Y represent.
x represents the windspeed, and y(d) represents the distance (y=)
In need of a second opinion. i will give best answer to first reply.?
Your answers are correct.
Distance = Speed * Time
(120 - x) km/h = Speed against the wind
(120 + x) km/h = Speed with the wind
1.5 hours = Time against the wind
1.0 hours = Time with the wind
D = D ; distance is the same in both directions
Nice work.
Reply:hi dear u should give some more details for resolve this question...??
Age Of Empires 3 custom senerios?
Ok I was a fan of Aoe 2 on zone, there was some wicked C.S Maps C.B. MCB all of those.
Ive just finally went out and bought Aoe3 and have been playing it online. It seems to be nothing more than the random map from AOE2 with a bit of a twist in techs, and strategies.
Ive breifly looked at the senerio editor and it seemed a bit mind boggling.
Is it possible to recreate some of those old classics?
Or am I stuck with this same R.M. "random map" b.s. cause if this is the case, this game is going to get old very very quick.
Age Of Empires 3 custom senerios?
its very possible recreate those classic cos i create scenerios almost every time i play ti.
Ive just finally went out and bought Aoe3 and have been playing it online. It seems to be nothing more than the random map from AOE2 with a bit of a twist in techs, and strategies.
Ive breifly looked at the senerio editor and it seemed a bit mind boggling.
Is it possible to recreate some of those old classics?
Or am I stuck with this same R.M. "random map" b.s. cause if this is the case, this game is going to get old very very quick.
Age Of Empires 3 custom senerios?
its very possible recreate those classic cos i create scenerios almost every time i play ti.
All that in the bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Pope or Kissinger?
This Reverend gentleman was expounding Biblical prophecies. He went on to prove that the Christian Bible foretold the rise of Soviet Russia, and the Last Days. At one stage he went to the extent of proving that his Holy Book did not leave even the Pope out of its predictions. He expatiated vigorously in order to convince his audience that the "Beast 666" mentioned in the Book of Revelation the last book of the New Testament was the POPE, who was the Vicar of Christ on earth. It is not befitting for us Muslims to enter into this controversy between the Roman Catholics and the Protestants. By the way, the latest Christian exposition of the "Beast 666" of the Christian Bible is Dr.Henry Kissinger1. Christian scholars are ingenious and indefatigable in their efforts to prove their case.
Rev. Hiten's lectures led me to ask that if the Bible foretold so many things - not even excluding the "Pope" and "Israel" - then surely it must have something to say about the greatest benefactor of mankind2, the Holy Prophet Muhammed (may the peace of Allah be upon him).
As a youngster I set out to search for an answer. I met priest after priest, attended lectures, and read everything that I could lay my hands relating to the fields of Bible prophecies. Tonight I am going to narrate to you one of these interviews with a dominee3 of the Dutch Reformed Church.
1. Christian exegesists give progressive numerical values by sixes, to the English alphabet and add up to get the total 666. i.e.A=6,B=12,C=18, D=24 and so on. Progression by 6's because the number of the Beast in the Bible is "666". Try it for Dr.Kissinger.
2. The writer has just delivered another talk in the City Hall, Durban on the 10th December, 1975 on the subject "Muhummed the Greatest".
3. "Dominee" is the Afrikaans equivalent of priest, parson and predikant.
Lucky Thirteen
I was invited to the Transvaal1 to deliver a talk on the occasion of Birthday celebration of the Holy Prophet Muhammed. Knowing that in that province of the Republic, the Afrikaans language is widely spoken, even by my own people, I felt that I ought to acquire a smattering of this language so a s to feel a little "at home" with the people. I opened the telephone directory and began phoning the Afrikaans-speaking Churches. I indicated my purpose to the priests that I was interested in having a dialogue with them, but they all refused my request with "Plausible" excuses. No.13 was my lucky number. The thirteenth call brought me pleasure and relief. A dominee Van Heerden agreed to meet me at his home on the Saturday afternoon that I was to leave for Transvaal.
He received me on his verandah with a friendly welcome. He said if I did not mind, he would like his father-in-law from the Free State (a 70 year old man) to join us in the discussion. I did not mind. The three of us settled down in the dominee's library.
1. One of the Provinces of the Republic of South Africa.
Why nothing?
I posed the question: "What does the Bible say about Muhummed?" Without hesitation he answered, "Nothing!" I asked: "Why nothing? According to your interpretation the Bible have so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia and about the Last Days and even about the Pope of the Roman Catholics?" He said, "Yes, but there was nothing about Muhummed!" I asked again, "Why nothing? Surely this man Muhummed who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of Believers who, on his authority, believe in:
(1) the miraculous birth of Jesus,
(2) that Jesus is the Messiah,1
(3) that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission.
Surely this book (the Bible) must have something to say about this great Leader of men who spoke so well of Jesus and his mother Mary?" (Peace be upon them both).
The old man from the Free State replied. "My son, I have been reading the Bible for the past 50 years, and if there was any mention of him, I would have known it."
1. The word "Messiah" comes from the Arabic and Hebrew word masaha which means to rub, to massage, to annoint. The religious significance is "the one who is anointed" - priests and kings were anointed in consecration to their offices. Messiah translated Christ does not mean God. Even the heathen Cyrus is called "Christ" in the Bible, (Isaiah 45:1)
Not One by name!
I enquired: "According to you, are there not hundreds of prophecies regarding the coming of Jesus in the Old Testament." The dominee interjected: "Not hundreds, but thousands!" I said, "I am not going to dispute the 'thousand and one' prophecies in the Old Testament regarding the coming of Jesus Christ, because the whole Muslim-world has already accepted him without the testimony of any Biblical prophecy. We Muslims have accepted the de facto Jesus on the authority of Muhummed alone, and there are in the world today no less than 900,000,0001 followers of Muhummed who love, respect and revere this great Messenger of God -Jesus Christ- without having the Christians to convince them by means of their Biblical dialectics. Out of the 'thousands' of prophecies referred to, can you please give me just one single prophecy where Jesus is mentioned by name? The term 'Messiah', translated as 'Christ', is not a name but a title. Is there a single Prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be JESUS, and that his mother's name will be MARY, that his supposed father will be JOSEPH THE CARPENTER; that he will be born in the reign of HEROD THE KING, etc. etc.? No! There are no such details! Then how can you conclude that those 'thousand' Prophecies refer to Jesus (Peace be upon him)?"
1. This was first written in 1976.
What is Prophecy?
The dominee replied: "You see, prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future. When that thing actually comes to pass, we see vividly in these prophecies the fulfilment of what had been predicted in the past." I said: "What you actually do is that you deduce, you reason, you put two and two together." He said: "Yes." I said: "If this is what you have to do with a 'thousand' prophecies to justify your claim with regards to the genuineness of Jesus, why should we not adopt the very same system for Muhummed?"1 The dominee agreed that it was a fair proposition , a reasonable way of dealing with the problem.
I asked him to open up Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 18, which he did. I read from memory the verse in Afrikaans, because this was my purpose in having a little practice with the language of the ruling race in South Africa.2
'N PROFEET SAL EK VIR HULLE VERWEK UIT DIE MIDDE VAN HULLE BROERS, SOOS JY IS, EN EK SAL MY WOORDE IN SY MOND LE, EN HY SY SAL AAN HULLE SE ALLE WAT EK HOM BEVEEL. Deut.18: 18.
The English translation reads as follows:-
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like unto thee,
and I will put my words in his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
(HOLY BIBLE) Deuteronomy 18:18.
1. Muhummed is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon 5:16. The Hebrew word used there is Muhammuddim. The end letters IM is plural of respect majesty and grandeur. Minus "im" the name would be Muhamud translated as "altogether lovely" in the Authorised Version of the Bible or 'The Praised One' 'the one worthy of Praise' i.e. MUHUMMED!(P.B.U.H)
2. If this booklet is translated into any language, please change the Afrikaans words into the local dialect; and do not try a free hand translation of the Biblical quotation. Obtain a Bible in the language in which translation is being made and transcribe exactly as the words occur in that Bible.
Prophet Like Moses
Having recited the verse in Afrikaans, I apologised for my uncertain pronunciation, The dominee assured me that I was doing fine. I enquired: "To whom does this prophecy refer?" Without the slightest hesitation he answered: "JESUS!" I asked: "Why Jesus?... his name is not mentioned here." The dominee replied: "Since prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future, we find that the wordings of this verse adequately describe him. You see the most important words of this prophecy are 'SOOS JY IS' (like unto thee), - LIKE YOU - like Moses, and Jesus is like Moses. I questioned: "In which way is Jesus like Moses?" The answer was: "In the first place Moses was a JEW and Jesus was also a JEW; secondly, Moses was a PROPHET and Jesus was also a PROPHET - therefore Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God had foretold Moses - "SOOS JY IS". "Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?" I asked. The dominee said that he could not think of any. I replied: "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL "Jews" as well as "Prophets". Why should we not apply this prophecy to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of another?" The dominee had no reply. I continued: "You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I am wrong I would like you to correct me."
Three Unlikes
So saying, I reasoned with him:
"In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to You - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses!
"SECONDLY, according to You - 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?" He again said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"
"THIRDLY, according to You - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?" He answered meekly: "Y-e-s." I concluded: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"
"But dominee," I continued: "these are not hard facts, solid facts, they are mere matters of belief over which the little ones can stumble and fall. Let us discuss something very simple, very easy that if your little ones are called in to hear the discussion, would have no difficulty in following it, shall we?" The dominee was quiet happy at the suggestion.
CHAPTER TWO
Eight Irrefutable Arguments
Father and Mother
(1) "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhummed also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "DAAROM IS JESUS NIE SOOS MOSES NIE, MAAR MUHUMMED IS SOOS MOSES!" Meaning: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses!" (By now the reader will realise that I was using the Afrikaans language only for practice purposes. I shall discontinue its use in this narration).
Miraculous Birth
(2) "Moses and Muhummed were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special miracle. You will recall that we are told in the Gospel of St. Matthew 1:18 ".....BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER,(Joseph the Carpenter and Mary) SHE WAS FOUND WITH CHILD BY THE HOLY GHOST." And St.Luke tells us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announced to her, Mary reasoned: "...HOW SHALL THIS BE, SEEING I KNOW NOT A MAN? AND THE ANGEL ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HER, THE HOLY GHOST SHALL COME UPON THEE, AND THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST SHALL OVERSHADOW THEE..." (Luke 1:35). The Holy Qur'an confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus, in nobler and sublimer terms. In answer to her logical question:
" O MY LORD! HOW SHALL I HAVE A SON WHEN NO MAN HATH TOUCHED ME? "
The angel says in reply:
"EVEN SO: ALLAH CREATETH WHAT HE WILLETH:
WHEN HE HATH DECREED A PLAN,
HE BUT SAITH TO IT "BE,"
AND IT IS " 1
(HOLY QUR'AN, 3:47).
It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the of birth of Jesus. (When I compared the Qur'an and the Biblical versions of the birth of Jesus to the head of the Bible Society in our largest City, and when I enquired: "Which version would you prefer to give your daughter, the QUR'ANIC version or the BIBLICAL version?" The man bowed his head and answered: "The Qur'anic.") In short, I said to the dominee: "Is it true that Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and Muhummed?" He replied proudly: "Yes!" I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" (Like You, Like Moses) and Muhummed is like Moses."
1. Please open the Holy Qur'an 3:42 and 19:16 where the birth of Jesus is spoken about; read it with the commentry, note the high position which Jesus and his mother occupy in Islam.
Marriage Ties
(3) "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses."
Jesus Rejected by his People
(4) "Moses and Muhummed were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness, but as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a Messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhummed's life impossible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Mecca, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible: 'He (Jesus) CAME UNTO HIS OWN, BUT HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT.' (John 1:11). And even today, after two thousand years, his people- the Jews, as a whole, have rejected him. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "THEREFORE JESUS IS NOT LIKE MOSES, BUT MUHUMMED IS LIKE MOSES."
"Other-Wordly" Kingdom
(5) "Moses and Muhummed were prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of Man and this Guidance he conveys to God's creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch: if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment - HE IS A KING. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day, and Moses had him stoned to death? (Numbers- 15:13). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhummed too, had the power of life and death over his people.
There are instances in the Bible of persons who were given gift of prophecy only, but they were not in a position to implement their directives. Some of these holy men of God who were helpless in the face of stubborn rejection of their message, were the prophets lot, Jonah, Daniel, Ezra, and John the Baptist. They could only deliver the message, but could not enforce the Law. The Holy Prophet Jesus (Peace p.b.u.h) also belonged to this category. The Christian Gospel clearly confirms this: when Jesus was dragged before the Roman Governor, Pontius Pilate, Charged for sedition, Jesus made a convincing point in his defence to refute the false charge: JESUS ANSWERED, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD': IF MY KINGDOM WERE OF THIS WORLD, THEN WOULD MY SERVANTS FIGHT, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO THE JEWS; BUT NOW IS MY KINGDOM NOT FROM HENCE" (John 18:36) This convinced Pilate (A Pagan) that though Jesus might not be in full possession of his mental faculty, he did not strike him as being a danger to his rule. Jesus claimed a spiritual Kingdom only; in other words he only claimed to be a Prophet. Is this true?" The dominee answered: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
No New Laws
(6) "Moses and Muhummed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for the guidance of his people. Muhummed comes to a people steeped in barbarism and ignorance. They married their step-mothers; they buried their daughters alive; drunkenness, adultery, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. Gibbon describe the Arabs before Islam in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire", THE HUMAN BRUTE, ALMOST WITHOUT SENSE, IS POORLY DISTINGUISHED FROM THE REST OF THE ANIMAL CREATION.' There was hardly anything to distinguish between the "man" and the "animal" of the time; they were animals in human form.
"From this abject barbarism, Muhummed elevated them, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, "into torch-bearers of light and learning.' 'TO THE ARAB NATION IT WAS AS A BIRTH FROM DARKNESS INTO LIGHT. ARABIA FIRST BECAME ALIVE BY MEANS OF IT. A POOR SHEPHERD PEOPLE, ROAMING UNNOTICED IN ITS DESERTS SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. SEE, THE UNNOTICED BECOMES WORLD NOTABLE, THE SMALL HAS GROWN WORLD-GREAT. WITHIN ONE CENTURY AFTERWARDS ARABIA WAS AT GRANADA ON ONE HAND AND AT DELHI ON THE OTHER. GLANCING IN VALOUR AND SPLENDOUR, AND THE LIGHT OF GENIUS, ARABIA SHINES OVER A GREAT SECTION OF THE WORLD. ..." The fact is that Muhummed gave his people a Law and Order they never had before.
As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an impostor with designs to pervert their teachings, Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no new laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words: 'THINK NOT THAT I AM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: I AM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'(Mathew 5:17-18). In other words he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfil the old law. This what he gave the Jews to understand- unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This Messenger of God would never resort to such fo ul means to subvert the Religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say, 'why don't you fast' or 'why don't you wash your hands before you break bread',which charges they always levied against his disciples, but never against Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honoured the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhummed. Is this true?" I asked the dominee, and he answered: "Yes." I said: "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
How they Departed
(7) "Both Moses and Muhummed died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was violently killed on the cross.1 Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I averred: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
Heavenly Abode
(8) "Moses and Muhummed both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus in heaven. Is this true?" The dominee agreed. I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
1. For a full exposition of this topic, see "CRUCIFIXION OR CRUCI-FICTION?".
CHAPTER THREE
Further Proofs
Ishmael The First Born
Since the dominee was helplessly agreeing with every point, I said, "Dominee, so far what I have done is to prove only one point out of the whole prophecy- that is proving the phrase 'LIKE UNTO THEE' - 'Like You' - 'Like Moses'. The Prophecy is much more than this single phrase which reads as follows : "I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN LIKE UNTO THEE......." The emphasis is on the words- "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly be the Arabs. You see, the Holy Bible speaks of Abraham as the "Friend of God". Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - HIS FIRST-BORN- '......And Abraham1 called HIS SON'S name, which Hagar bare Ishmael.' (Genesis 16:15). 'And Abraham took Ishmael HIS SON......" (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael HIS SON was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.'(Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of THIRTEEN Ishmael was the ONLY son and seed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael.
1. According to the Bible, Abraham's name was Abram before it was changed by God to Abraham.
Arabs and Jews
If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among themselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!
Words in the Mouth
"The prophecy proceeds further:'.......AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH.......' What does it mean when it is said 'I will put my words in your mouth'? You see, when I asked you (the dominee) to open Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18, at the beginning, and if I had asked you to read, and if you had read: would I be putting my words into your mouth?" The dominee answered: "No." "But," I continued: "If I were to teach you a language like Arabic about which you have no knowledge, and if I asked you to read or repeat after me what I utter i.e.
( I read them in Arabic )
Would I not be putting these unheard words of a foreign tongue which you utter, into your mouth?" The dominee agreed that it was indeed so. In an identical manner, I said, the words of the Holy Qur'an, the Revelation vouchsafed by the Almighty God to Muhummed, were revealed.
History tells us that Muhummed was forty years of age. He was in a cave some three miles north of the City of Mecca. It was the 27th night of the Muslim month of Ramadaan. In the cave the Archangel Gabriel commands him in his mother tongue: 'IQRA' which means READ! or PROCLAIM! or RECITE! Muhummed is terrified and in his bewilderment replies " MA ANA BEQARA which means I AM NOT LEARNED! The angel commands him a second time with the same result. For the third time the angel continues.
Now Muhummed, grasps, that what was required of him was to repeat! to rehearse! And he repeats the words as they were put into his mouth:
These are the first five verses which were revealed to Muhummed which now occupy the beginning of the 96th chapter of the Holy Qur'an.
The Faithful Witness
Immediately the angel had departed, Muhummed rushed to his home. Terrified and sweating all over he asked his beloved wife Khadija to 'cover him up!' He lay down, and she watched by him. When he had regained his composure, he explained to her what he had seen and heard. She assured him of her faith in him and that Allah would not allow any terrible thing to happen to him. Are these the confessions of an impostor? Would impostors confess that when an angel of the Lord confronts them with a Message from on High, they get fear-stricken, terrified, and sweating all over, run home to their wives? Any critic can see that his reactions and confessions are that of an honest, sincere man, the man of Truth- 'AL-AMIN' - THE Honest, the Upright, the Truthful.
During the next twenty-three years of his prophetic life, words were 'Put into his mouth', and he uttered them. They made an indeliable impression on his heart and mind: and as the volume of the Sacred Scripture (Holy Qur'an) grew, they were recorded on palm-leaf fibre, on skins and on the shoulder-blades of animals; and in the hearts of his devoted disciples. Before his demise these words were arranged according to his instructions i n the order in which we find them today in the Holy Qur'an.
The words (revelation) were actually put into his mouth, exactly as foretold in the prophecy under discusion: 'AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.' (Deut. 18:18).
Un-lettered Prophet
Muhummed's experience in the cave of Hira, later to be known as Jabal-un Noor - The Mountain of Light, and his response to that first Revelation is the exact fulfilment of another Biblical Prophecy. In the Book of Isaiah, Chapter 29, verse 12, we read: "AND THE BOOK" (al-Kitaab,al-Quran the 'Reading', the 'Recitation') "IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED," (Isaiah 29:12) "THE UNLETTERED PROPHET " (Holy Qur'an 7:158) and the biblical verse continues : "SAYING, READ THIS, I PRAY THEE:" (the words "I pray thee", are not in the Hebrew manuscripts; compare with the Roman Catholics' "Douay Version and also with the "Revised Standard Versions") "AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." ("I am not learned." is the exact translation of the Arabic words MA ANA BEQARA which Muhummed uttered twice to the Holy Ghost - the Archangel Gabriel, when he was commanded : IQRAA "READ!").
Let me quote the verse in full without a break as found in the "King James Version," or the "Authorised version" as it is more popularly known "AND THE BOOK IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED, SAYING, READ THIS I PRAY THEE: AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." (Isaiah 29:12).
Important note :
It may be noted that there were no Arabic Bibles in existence in the 6th Century of the Christian Era when Muhummed lived and preached! Besides, he was absolutely unlettered and unlearned. No human had ever taught him a word. His teacher was his Creator:
Without any human learning, 'he put to shame the wisdom of the learned'."
(12) There are today Arabic Bibles in Fourteen different scripts and dialects for the Arabs alone. See "The Gospels in many tongues".
Grave Warning
"See!" I told the dominee, "how the prophecies fit Muhummed like a glove. We do not have to stretch prophecies to justify their fulfilment in Muhummed."
The dominee replied, "All your expositions sound very well, but they are of no real consequence, because we Christians have Jesus Christ the "incarnate" God, who has redeemed us from the Bondage of Sin!"
I asked, "Not important?" God didn't think so! He went to a great deal of trouble to have His warnings recorded. God knew that there would be people like you who will flippantly, light-heartedly discount his words, so he followed up Deuteronomy 18:18 with a dire warning: "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, " (it is going to happen) "THAT WHOSOEVER WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME, I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM. (in the Catholic Bible the ending words are - "I will be the revenger", I will take vengeance from him - I will take revenge!) "Does not this terrify you? God Almighty is threatening revenge! We shake in our pants if some hoodlum threathens us, yet you have no fear of God's warning?"
"Miracle of Miracles! in the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfilment of the prophecy in Muhummed! Note the words-'.....MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME," In whose name is Muhummed speaking?" I opened Yusuf Ali's translation of the Holy Qur'an, at chapter 114- 'Sura Nas', or Mankind - the last chapter, and showed him the formula at the head of the chapter:
and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL." And the heading of chapter 113:
and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL". And every chapter downwards 112 , 111, 110.......was the same formula and the same meaning on every page, because the end SURAS (chapters) are short and take about a page each.
"And what did the prophecy demand?' ......WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME and in whose name does Muhummed speak? 'IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.' The Prophecy is being fulfilled in Muhummed to the letter
"Every chapter of the Holy Qur'an except the 9th begin with the formula: IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.' The Muslim begins his every lawful act with the Holy formula. But the Christian begins: "In the name of the Father, son and holy ghost.'"1
Concerning Deuteronomy chapter eighteen, I have given you more than 15 reasons as to how this prophecy refers to Muhummed and NOT to Jesus.
1. The Christian theologians are ignorant of even the "name of God. Because "God" is not a name, and "Father" is also not a name. See "WHAT IS HIS NAME?".
CHAPTER FOUR
New Testament Also Confirms
Baptist Contradicts Jesus
In New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfilment of the prophecy of 'ONE LIKE MOSES', refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to enquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:
".......ELIAS TRULY SHALL FIRST COME, AND RESTORE ALL THINGS. BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT ELIAS IS COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT,...THEN THE DISCIPLES UNDERSTOOD THAT HE SPAKE UNTO THEM OF JOHN THE BAPTIST." (Matthew 17:11-13).
According to the New Testament the Jews were not the ones to swallow the words of any would-be Messiah. In their investigations they underwent intense difficulties in order to find their true Messiah. And this the Gospel of John confirms: "AND THIS IS THE RECORD OF JOHN,"(the Baptist) "WHEN THE JEWS SENT PRIESTS AND LEVITES FROM JERUSALEM TO ASK HIM, WHO ART THOU? AND HE CONFESSED AND DENIED NOT; BUT CONFESSED, I AM NOT THE CHRIST." (This was only natural because there can't be two Messiahs1 at the same time. If Jesus was the Christ then John couldn't be the Christ!) "AND THEY ASKED HIM, WHAT THEN? ART THOU ELIAS? AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT." (Here John the Baptist contradicts Jesus! Jesus says that John is "Elias" and John denies that he is what Jesus ascribes him to be. One of the TWO (Jesus or John), God forbid!, is definitely not speaking the TRUTH! On the testimony of Jesus himself, John the Baptist was the greatest of the Israelite prophets: "VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, AMONG THEM THAT ARE BORN OF WOMEN THERE HAS NOT RISEN A GREATER THAN JOHN THE BAPTIST:... "(Matthew 11:11).
We Muslims know John the Baptist as Hazrut YAHYAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him). We revere him as a true prophet of Allah. The Holy Prophet Jesus known to us as Hazrut ISAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him), is also esteemed as one of the mightiest messenger of the Almighty. How can we Muslims impute lies to either of them? We leave this problem between Jesus and John for the Christians to solve, for their "sacred scriptures" abound in discrepancies which they have been glossing over as the "dark sayings of Jesus"(15). We Muslims are really interested in the last questions posed to John the Baptist by the Jewish elite- "ART THOU THAT PROPHET? AND HE ANSWERED, NO." (John 1:21)
1. The Jews were expecting a single Messiah not two.
2. See the "TIMES" Magazine December 30th, 1974, article "How true is the Bible?" And also see "50,000 Errors in the Bible?" a reproduction from the Christian Magazine "AWAKE!" September 8, 1957.
Three Questions!
Please note that three different and distinct questions were posed to John the Baptist and to which he gave three emphatic "NO'S" as answers. To recapitulate:-
1) ART THOU THE CHRIST?
2) ART THOU ELIAS?
3) ART THOU THAT PROPHET?
But the learned men of Christendom somehow only see two questions implied here. To make doubly clear that the Jews definitely had T-H-R-E-E separate prophecies in their minds when they were interrogating John the Baptist, let us read the remonstrance of the Jews in the verses following:
"AND THEY ASKED HIM, AND SAID UNTO HIM, WHY BAPTIZEST THOU THEN, IF THOU BE
a) NOT THAT CHRIST,
b) NOR ELIAS,
c) NEITHER THAT PROPHET?" (John 1:25)
The Jews were waiting for the fulfilment of THREE distinct prophecies: One, the coming of CHRIST. Two the coming of ELIAS, and Three, the coming of THAT PROPHET.
"That Prophet"
If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, the we will find in the marginal note where the words "the Prophet", or "that Prophet" occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that 'that prophet' - 'the prophet like Moses' - "LIKE UNTO THEE", we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was MUHUMMED and not Jesus!
We Muslims are not denying that Jesus was the "Messiah", which word is translated as "Christ".1 We are not contesting the "thousand and one prophecies" which the Christians claim abound in the Old Testament foretelling the coming of the Messiah. What we say is that Deuteronomy 18:18 does NOT refer to Jesus Christ but it is an explicit prophecy about the Holy Prophet MUHUMMED!"
The dominee, very politely parted with me by saying that it was a very interesting discussion and he would like me very much to come one day and address his congregation on the subject. A decade and half has passed since then but I am still awaiting that privilege.
I believe the dominee was sincere when he made the offer, but prejudices die hard and who would like to loose his sheep?
1. How the word Messiah was transmuted to Christ?. See "Christ in Islam"
The Acid Test
To the lambs of Christ I say, why not apply that acid test which the Master himself wanted you to apply to any would be claimant to prophethood? He had said: "BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. DO MEN GATHER GRAPES FROM THE THORNS, OR FIGS FROM THE THISTLES? EVERY GOOD TREE WILL BEAR GOOD FRUIT AND EVERY EVIL TREE WILL BEAR EVIL FRUIT....BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. (Matthew 7:16-20).
Why are you afraid to apply this test to the teachings of Muhummed? You will find in the Last Testament of God - the Holy Qur'an - the true fulfilment of the teachings of Moses and Jesus which will bring to the world the much-needed peace and happiness. "IF A MAN LIKE MOHAMED WERE TO ASSUME THE DIC TATORSHIP OF THE MODERN WORLD, HE WOULD SUCCEED IN SOLVING ITS PROBLEMS THAT WOULD BRING IT THE MUCH NEEDED PEACE AND HAPPINESS."
(George Bernard Shaw)
The Greatest!
The Weekly Newsmagazine "TIME" dated July 15, 1974, carried a selection of opinions by various historians, writers, military men, businessmen and others on the subject: "Who Were History's Great Leaders?" Some said that it was Hitler; others said - Gandhi, Buddha, Lincoln and the like. But Jules Masserman, a United States psychoanalyst put the standards straight by giving the correct criteria wherewith to judge. He said:
"LEADERS MUST FULFIL THREE FUNCTIONS:-
(1) Provide for the well-being of the led,
(2) Provide a social organization in which people feel relatively secure
and
(3) Provide them with one set of beliefs."
With the above three criteria he searches history and analyses - Hitler, Pasteur, Gaesar, Moses, Confucius and the lot, and ultimately concludes:
"PEOPLE LIKE PASTEUR AND SALK ARE LEADERS IN THE FIRST SENSE. PEOPLE LIKE GANDHI AND CONFUCIUS, ON ONE HAND, AND ALEXANDER, CAESAR AND HITLER ON THE OTHER, ARE LEADERS IN THE SECOND AND PERHAPS THE THIRD SENSE. JESUS AND BUDDHA BELONG IN THE THIRD CATEGORY ALONE. PERHAPS THE GREATEST LEADER OF ALL TIMES WAS MOHAMMED, WHO COMBINED ALL THREE FUNCTIONS. To a lesser degree, MOSES DID THE SAME."
According to the objective standards set by the Professor of the Chicago University, whom I believe to be Jewish, - JESUS and BUDDHA are now - here in the picture of the "Great Leaders of Mankind", but by a queer coincidence groups Moses and Muhummed together thus adding further weight to the argument that JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like MOSES: Deut.18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" - Like MOSES!
Reverend James L. Dow in Collins Dictionary of the Bible gives further proof, that JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like Moses: "AS A STATESMAN AND LAWGIVER MOSES IS THE CREATOR OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. HE FOUND A LOOSE CONGLOMERATION OF SEMITIC PEOPLE, NONE OF ......
*Also in "THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF RELIGION", Moses is looked upon in the different traditions. Under Moses in Islam; we read
"MOSES IS HIGHLY REGARDED IN ISLAM AS THE GREAT PROPHET WHO FORETOLD THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD, HIS SUCCESSOR...THERE IS MUCH IN THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD THAT IS IMPLICITLY REMINISCENT OF THE MOSES TRADITION.
P121, THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF RELIGION, Mircea Eliade (EDITOR IN CHIEF)
Volume 10, Macmillean Publishing Company
In conclusion, I end with a quotation of a Christian Reverend the commentator of the Bible, followed by that of his Master:
"THE ULTIMATE CRITERION OF A TRUE PROPHET IS THE MORAL CHARACTER OF HIS TEACHING."
(Prof. Dummelow.)
"BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM."
(Jesus Christ)
COME LET US REASON TOGETHER
SAY:"O PEOPLE OF THE BOOK!
COME TO COMMON TERMS AS BETWEEN US AND YOU:
THAT WE WORSHIP NONE BUT GOD;
THAT WE ASSOCIATE NO PARTNERS WITH HIM;
THAT WE ERECT NOT, FROM AMONG OURSELVES,
LORDS AND PATRONS OTHER THAN GOD."
IF THEN THEY TURN BACK,
SAY:"BEAR WITNESS THAT WE (AT LEAST)
ARE MUSLIMS (BOWING TO GOD'S WILL)."
(SURA AL-I-'IMRAN) Holy Qur'an 3:64
"PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" is the respectful title given to the Jews and the Christians in the Holy Qur'an. The Muslims is here commanded to invite - "O People of the Book!" - O Learned People! O People who claim to be the recipients of Divine Revelation, of a Holy Scripture; let us gather together onto a common platform - "that we worship none but God", because none but God is worthy of worship, not because "THE LORD THY GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD VISITING THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS UPON THE CHILDREN UNTO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION OF THEM THAT HATE ME." (Exodus 20:25). But because He is our Lord and Cherisher, our Sustainer and Evolver, worthy of all praise, prayer and devotion.
In the abstract the Jews and the Christians would agree to all the three propositions contained in this Qur'anic verse. In practice they fail. Apart from doctrinal lapses from the unity of the One True God, (ALLAH Subhanahu wa ta-ala) there is the question of a consecrated Priesthood (among the Jews it was hereditary also), as if a mere human being - Cohen or Pope, or Priest, or Brahman, - could claim superiority apart from his learning and the purity of his life, or could stand between man and God in some special sense. ISLAM DOES NOT RECOGNISE PRIESTHOOD!
The Creed of Islam is given to us here in a nutshell from Holy Qur'an:
Say ye: "We believe in Allah,
And the revelation given to us,
And to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac,
Jacob, and the Tribes,
And that given to Moses and Jesus
And that given to (all)
Prophets from their Lord:
We make no difference
Between one and another of them:
And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
(SURA BAQARA) Holy Qur'an 2:136.
The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all Religion is one, for the Truth is one. IT WAS THE SAME RELIGION PREACHED BY ALL THE EARLIER PROPHETS. (Holy Qur'an 42:13). It was the truth taught by all the inspired Books. In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of God and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. IF ANYONE WANTS A RELIGION OTHER THAN THAT, HE IS FALSE TO HIS OWN NATURE, AS HE IS FALSE TO GOD'S WILL AND PLAN. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance.
All that in the bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
You have set a record for the longest question on YA.
And for the question that nobody has taken the time to read.
The best answer would be to note that Jerusalem is a key issue in the attempt by Arabs to destroy Israel.
The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes:
"Any opposition to this order...is an obstacle to the holy war...and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts" (Morris, Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986).
The Arab Higher Committee ordered the evacuation of several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more in April-July 1948. The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way (The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, MA: Cambridge University Press, 2004, p. 592).
Whenever the Temple Mount or Jerusalem is mentioned, it is usually remarked that is "the third holy place for Muslims", but why it is never said that is the FIRST Holy Place for Jews? It sounds like utterly biased information!
The role Jerusalem has in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures is well known and not open to debate; however, there are varying opinions on the holiness of Jerusalem, specifically the Temple Mount to Islam.
In fact, the Islamic claim to the Temple Mount is very recent. Jerusalem's role as "The Third Holiest Site in Islam" in mainstream Islamic writings does not precede the 1930s. It was created by the grand mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini.
Muslims claim that their prophet was once in Jerusalem (an event that is not mentioned in the Quran either). It appears evident that he did not meet any Palestinian in his whole life, nor did his successors either.
Caliph Salahuddin al-Ayyub (Saladin), knew the Jews and kindly invited them to settle in Jerusalem, that he recognized as their Homeland, but he did not know any Palestinian.
Jerusalem is a key issue in the attempt by Arabs to destroy Israel.
The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes:
"Any opposition to this order...is an obstacle to the holy war...and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts" (Morris, Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986).
The Arab Higher Committee ordered the evacuation of several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more in April-July 1948. The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way (The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, MA: Cambridge University Press, 2004, p. 592).
Whenever the Temple Mount or Jerusalem is mentioned, it is usually remarked that is "the third holy place for Muslims", but why it is never said that is the FIRST Holy Place for Jews? It sounds like utterly biased information!
In fact, the Islamic claim to the Temple Mount is very recent. Jerusalem's role as "The Third Holiest Site in Islam" in mainstream Islamic writings does not precede the 1930s. It was created by the grand mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini.
Muslims claim that their prophet was once in Jerusalem (an event that is not mentioned in the Quran either). It appears evident that he did not meet any Palestinian in his whole life, nor his successors did either.
Caliph Salahuddin al-Ayyub (Saladin), knew the Jews and kindly invited them to settle in Jerusalem, that he recognized as their Homeland, but he did not know any Palestinian.
To claim that Palestinians are the original people of the Land of Israel is not only against secular history but also against Islamic history.
In the year 985, the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained that in Jerusalem the large majority of the population were Jewish, and said that "the mosque is empty of worshipers..." .
Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, wrote in the year 1377:
"Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years... It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement".
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Reply:Thanks. A good read. May God Bless You!
Reply:My dear brother, Please refrain yourself from posting the longest question ever known to human history....
Just ask simple ones...
Reply:You say that the Koran is the last testament given by God. Mormons would say they have the last testament of Jesus Christ. You are both wrong, since both books strongly contradict the teachings of the bible. Unlike the Bible, the Koran says that if someone will not convert you are to kill them. It says that if your wife gets out of line to take her to the side and beat her. It's a book of hate. It is no wonder that terrorists, who have latched onto the truer meaning of the Koran, have such disdain for the lives of non-Muslims.
You wrote:
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(3) "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses."
All these analogies are just plain stupid. Deep down you know these are stupid comparisons. Unlike Moses, Muhammed married a 9 or 10 year old and had other wives.
You wrote:
"THIRDLY, according to You - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?" He answered meekly: "Y-e-s." I concluded: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"
"He answered meekly," how rediculous. Well, in the case of Muhammed who can really know. I can't tell who has gone where, but some might argue that Muhammed went to hell, and would be more like Jesus than Moses following your odd ball comparisons.
Reply:Ok.
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Reply:The Bible is the only Book that will show you how to get to heaven
Reply:He's completely mad. And you're even madder for buying into it.
Reply:goodness-how on earth did you manage to put some much text into this question?
Let me start by saying good morning to you.......
How a person interprets a text is often different to the next person.
I have 2 friends who are studying the Bible at present and they often get into debates on how they have interpreted something.
I personally do not feel the Bible was referring to the prophet of MUHAMMED, but was actually referring to Christ.
This sort of text could be looked upon of religious incitement and may offend many people.
Have a good day my friend and be at peace with yourself, remember whatever religion a person believes in is their own personal choice. We all have to share this world, wouldn't it be easier if we each accepted other people live and believe differently from one another, and that only those who want to learn should be preached upon.
Reply:If you could summarise that, people would be more likely to read it. I haven't read it because it's very long. I understand that what you're saying seems very important, but that's why you need to make it shorter because then people are more likely to listen to you.
Reply:I will pose this answer to the originator and as if to the one who posted it..undersanding that the one who postd this is not the one who originated this debate and writings ..
Its enough that this one assumes to stand behind this... unfortunatly, and perhaps believe's this artical is infallable.
First ..... Do you think that your education justifies your argument? It actually contradicts your presentation of your own arguments.
Perhaps you will see that.
Or perhaps all you will see and glory in, is HOW well you showed off your education to justify your motive, which was to propagate Muhammad and Islam?
Your arguments are not only empty but scatter simple and easy understanding concerning the flow of flowing prophetic and written testament of Yeshua (Jesus) and biblical scriptures (YES) even taking original manuscript into account ..
I apologize for many Christians who also argue emptily by trying to show off their education and head knowledge of the scriptures. BUT even though these sort claim he is the sent son of God, they do not truly know or understand Him.
I wont compete by trying to out match someone's education where unfortunate MANY feel they must and have to be right because of how HARD they have studied BOOKS and presented their education.
Ecclesiastic 12:12-14 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
No BUT I will show you how you shut yourself down along with your own arguments ....
YOU SAID: If this is what you have to do with a 'thousand' prophecies to justify your claim with regards to the genuineness of Jesus, why should we not adopt the very same system for Muhammad?"1
The dominee agreed that it was a fair proposition , a reasonable way of dealing with the problem.
Ok .... so do I ...
But by your own presented words, your "two and two" do not add up for Muhammad ...or your own arguments!
With the many things that disqualify your argument Lets just stick TO YOUR OWN WORDS!!!
First ..
YOU SAID (presented);
I replied: "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL "Jews" as well as "Prophets..End quote..
ACCORDING TO YOU Then if these could refer to any of the candidates, ""according to your own argument""" YOU would be assuming and guessing also ...
SO why /hypocritically USE your own exposing points ..by your own admission and "your own argument" doesnt it show that your presentation is as glib as those who contend for Jesus ""according to your own arguments"?
YOU SAID ....
Is there a single Prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be JESUS, and that his mother's name will be MARY, that his supposed father will be JOSEPH THE CARPENTER; that he will be born in the reign of HEROD THE KING, etc. etc.? No! There are no such details! Then how can you conclude that those 'thousand' Prophecies refer to Jesus (Peace be upon him)?" ..end quote
YOU also referred to the name Muhammad being mentioned once ..BUT the word "savior" emanuel and "I AM" are mentioned MANY times ..
The name Jesus in its actual translation means "SAVIOR"..
Now on to how fallible these arguments really are ....
YOU SAID:
We Muslims have accepted the de facto Jesus on the authority of Muhammad alone, and there are in the world today no less than 900,000,0001 followers of Muhammad who love, respect and revere this great Messenger of God -Jesus Christ- without having the Christians to convince them by means of their Biblical dialectics..end quote
So you and 900,000.0001 Muslims admit that at least he is a prophet ... and If you admit he is then you believe that his words are true and that they have and will come to pass!
So by your own bible quoting
LET US LOOK AND READ WHAT YOU AT LEAST REFER TO AS VALID CONCERNING A PROPHET..
Deuteronomy 18:18-22
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him ...
NOW AGAIN YOU SAID AND I QUOTE!
YOU SAID:
Surely this man Muhammad who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of Believers who, on his authority, believe in:
(1) the miraculous birth of Jesus,
(2) that Jesus is the Messiah,1
(3) that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission.
SO if Jesus was not only confirmed by God as you say and HIS words and words that came to pass accompanied by signs and wonders (not including the fact that you just said Muhammad just confessed Jesus as the messiah)
WHY IS IT THEN THAT YOU Or those who believe "YOUR ARGUMENTS" DON'T BELIEVE ""ALL"" THAT HE SAYS?
Not just Jesus but John the Baptist and Mary who YOU AND 900,000.0001 other Muhammad believers ALSO CONFIRMED in your argument as being true prophets!
First lets go to just a few of the words of Jesus ...then Mary and John the Baptist ..
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 4:25-26 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
John 1:29-34
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
Mathew 1:20-24
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
NOW........
If it is these are confirmed as at least true prophets, how is it YOU do not obey and believe what they say ..HOW is it you don't fear him as YOU and Deuteronomy says?
YOU see Either Jesus, Mary John and Moses are liar's or They are truthfull and bare witness THAT the testimonies of events, Jesus and events through him ARE VALAD and TRUE .. or YOU YOURSELVES must confess that you are not following what you PREACH and believe ...
EVEN better concerning your own WORDS ...
YOU SAID: Surely this man Muhammad who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of Believers who, on his authority, believe in:
(1) the miraculous birth of Jesus,
(2) that Jesus is the Messiah,1
(3) that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission. end quote.
THAT Jesus is the Messiah ...
So AGAIN, dont you think that you are accountable to believe all Jesus Says ...Not to mention Mary and john the baptist ..???
What it sounds like is that you are very confused and bring much reproach upon your doctrines and Muhammed by your
unsound and balanced aruments ...
If I were you I would be more cautious ..there are people who actualy listen and reason RIGHT!
Reply:have a cry
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see how short that was???
Reply:...having read "ALL" of this I will you answer you very very simply...The promise of God (YHVH) was given to Abraham and the children of the Hebrew Nations, not Ishmael and Hagar (the slave) who abandon the faith and went out on their own... The false-prophet, Mohammad, was incapable of reading or writing... his "rants" were written by "others" who misunderstood them... The work of God(YHVH) on earth was completed on the Cross by Yeshua when He clearly stated "It is finished"...
Reply:I read some of it, there is a lot there.
JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like MOSES: Deut.18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" - Like MOSES!
Moses delivered the children of Israel out of slavery.
Jesus delivered the Jews out of bondage from Satan.
Not all believed in Him.
Matthew 1 (New King James Version)
And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.”
22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: 23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,”[d] which is translated, “God with us.”
So He was like Moses, He was a deliverer.
John 14:11
Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
He did signs, and His followers are still doing them today.
Luke 4:40
[ Many Healed After Sabbath Sunset ] When the sun was setting, all those who had any that were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and He laid His hands on every one of them and healed them.
God confirms His word with signs and wonders. Healing is one of them.
Reply:So what exactly is your question?
Reply:The Great 7 Year Tribulations
Now why would God implement the Great Tribulations?
• Because when he says he is going to do something (i.e. His prophecies) he is going to do just that. God never lies and always remembers his covenants.
• The world must end.
• To shatter man’s arrogance and sense of security as a ploy to get their attention.
• To end all evil and to punish the wicked
• To inaugurate his new kingdom of righteousness!
• Of course there are other reason and me being human can never know the infinite wisdom of the Sovereign Lord
Of course, an atheist and God haters can never understand God to a degree since they only focus on God’s judgments when it is clear that there is also going to be mercy during these harsh periods we call the Great tribulations.
When will the rapture occur? Nobody knows but God alone, not even his angels know! That is precisely why we all must have Jesus in our hearts as it is written:
Romans 10
8But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,"[d] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."[e] 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."[f]
If you do not accept Jesus (know this we do not know the hour of the rapture and that is to say if it happens in our generation!) then you unfortunately will have to experience a period of most egregious suffering and woes. This verse is but a mere appetizer of how painful the Great 7 year Tribulations shall be:
Jeremiah 30
4 These are the words the LORD spoke concerning Israel and Judah: 5 "This is what the LORD says:
" 'Cries of fear are heard—
terror, not peace.
6 Ask and see:
Can a man bear children?
Then why do I see every strong man
with his hands on his stomach like a woman in labor,
every face turned deathly pale?
7 How awful that day will be!
None will be like it.
It will be a time of trouble for Jacob,
but he will be saved out of it
If you read the above graphic verse, you shall surely know that no words can describe the excruciating pain the Great Tribulations shall be, that even men will be writhing in agony as if they are in labor like women.
The Rapture of the Christians and the Crowns and Rewards:
First the Rapture shall occur which means that the true followers of Jesus shall meet in heaven too receive their crowns for their Christian services.
1 Corinthians 15
51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."[g]
55"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?"[h] 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 4
13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.
These Crowns are not what saves someone but after a Christian is saved by believing in Jesus as said in Romans 10:9 they are giving treasures and rewards for their selfless deeds they did on earth (please note and I shall stress, these works rewards that is are not what saves a person but are “icing-on-the-cake” rewards and incentives after being saved via Jesus). Accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior is an unconditional covenant forge by God and his sovereign son Jesus and cannot be lost. However your works, treasures, and rewards that you do can either proliferate or be sabotaged and compromised by a lazy Christian who fells him or herself to sins of the flesh. These are following things that can pass through the fire because of a Christian’s GENUINE selfless deeds:
• The base foundation is Jesus the Christ is imperative
• Gold on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)
• Silver on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)
• Costly precious stones on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)
These are the are the following things that shall be incinerated by the fire by a Christian’s lazy selfish deeds, of the flesh and doing good deeds based on arrogance and trying to look good to his fellow man and NOT God:
• Wood
• Hay
• Straw
When these elements are passed through the fire whatever is left the saved person gets that reward. Rewards can be numerous or very few depending on how the saved Christian served God and his brethren selflessly. However even with the loss of rewards he or she is still saved as it is written:
1 Corinthians 3
15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
What that verse above means is similar to the contemporary Cliché:
“He made it by the skin of his teeth!”
Even though a Christian may lose some of his rewards and treasures he or she is still saved!!
Now let us identify the crowns, which are the following:
• Crown of life- AKA the martyrs crown those who died for bearing testimony of Jesus receive this crown
• Incorruptible crown-This is rewarded to Christians that kept their bodies pure and rejected the insatiable appetites of the flesh (i.e. immoral sex, drinking, drugs (sorcery), etc.)
• Crown of righteousness-this is giving to those who keep the faith and anxiously await Jesus return
• Crown of rejoicing*-Those who win peoples souls to Jesus. Not by Guilt, or you-will-go-to-hell but by love and obedience and by living by example not lip service hypocrisy
• Crown of joy*-AKA the Shepherds crown, those who are at full maturity. Those are great teachers like a pastor who uses his spiritual gifts to help to save the unsaved and lost.
*-These are the highest ranking of all the crowns.
The Antichrist:
Then Antichrist shall make his debut. The other names of the Antichrist are the following:
• Beast of the sea
• The abomination that makes desolate
• The king that will do as he pleases
• Tiny horn with eyes of a man that boasts to the God
• The man of lawlessness
• Son of perdition
A forewarning: ANY GUESSESS ON WHO THE ANTICHRIST IS; IS ONLY A FOOLS GAME!!! After the rapture the antichrist shall reveal himself and only the newly converts of Jesus after the rapture that is, shall decipher the name of the beast which is 666. SO IN ESSENCE ANY 666 GUESSING GAMES RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE RAPTURE IS ALSO A FOOLS GAME!!! The Antichrist will be a powerful world leader well versed in all arts. The antichrist myriads of talents to name a few are the following:
• Oratorical genius (Great speaking ability that entrances the human ears i.e. Hitler)
• Intellectual Genius
• Commercial Genius
• Military Genius
• Administrative genius
• Religious genius
• Powers of Satan
Israel’s Folly:
The Great 7 year tribulation does not happen when the rapture happens as most are commonly mistaken but only when the Antichrist forges a 7-year peace treaty so that all nations even the Arabs would recognize them as a sovereign state. As such, Israel shall pay dearly for seeking security with the grave Isaiah 28:14-15.
Israel’s Terms under the Antichrist’s Covenant:
Once Israel makes this foolish covenant with the antichrist, the terms of the deal are the following:
• Israel is given peace (False peace)
• The Jerusalem Temple is now under Israeli sovereignty on the Dome on the rock
• They are allowed to rebuild Solomon’s Temple long at last
• Israel must tear down their walls that borders their country
The Seven Seals of the Scroll:
Once Israel puts their trust into the Antichrist and not GOD, the GREAT TRIBULATIONS NOW COMMENCE. The seven seal of the scroll could not be opened by anyone except Jesus:
• 1st Seal-The antichrist; notice his bow but not an arrow; he will win the world power through peace and diplomacy.
• 2nd Seal-A great war shall break out. Some speculate this is a symbol of the Antichrist’s other true persona of pure evil and a man who has a penchant for a bloodbath.
• 3rd Seal-Famine as a result of war; a family will barely have the money to feed themselves so they must resort in buying cheap innutritious food to feed everyone thus the mention of barley. Wheat in those days is but a luxury few can afford. The oil and wine are not touch because they are the rich and the wealthy and of course they are barely affected.
• 4th Seal-Death is a result of all of this and it shall kill over ¼ of the populous!!
• 5th Seal-Martyrs cry to the Sovereign Lord for Justice; they beg God to avenge their unjust deaths because they bear true to the testimonies of Jesus. For that they were beheaded. God says for them to be patient and they were all given a white robe for there shall be more Christians than they themselves that shall be slaughtered. God shall avenge the martyrs so saith Hebrews 10:30.
• 6th Seal-Great Earthquake ensues; celestial upheaval. See Joel 2: 28-32
And all of the inhabitants of the earth shall say:
Revelation 6
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"
• 7th Seal-Silence for a half an hour then an angel takes a golden censer filled with incense and hurls it to earth and thunder, lightening, and an earthquake ensue.
The Dispatching of the 144,000 Jewish Evangelicals:
God in his infinite mercy and grace (even in a time of his wrath) shall dispatch the following:
• Judah 12,000
• Reuben 12,000
• Gad 12,000
• Asher 12,000
• Naphtali 12,000
• Manasseh 12,000
• Simeon 12,000
• Levi 12,000,
• Issachar 12,000
• Zebulun 12,000
• Joseph 12,000
• Benjamin 12,000
144,000 for the 12 tribes of Israel shall be given the SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD which insured the servants of God protection for the plagues. The Seal is branded on their foreheads by an angel.
The Dispatching of the Two Witnesses:
These will be invulnerable men who will wear sackcloth and prophecy for 1,260 day (3 ½ years). Some believe it will be Moses and Elijah since both of their powers are very similar to the powers of the two witnesses. We know one of the witnesses shall be Elijah as written in:
Malachi 4
5 "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse."
Their powers are the following:
• Power to shut the sky, thus inhibit rain from coming
• Power to turn waters into blood
• Can execute as many plagues and torment as often as they wish
• Breathe fire from their mouths to anyone who want to harm them; that is the way they must die
Many people will be saved during the GREAT TRIBULATIONS by the combined testimonies and effort of both the two witnesses and the 144,000 Jewish Evangelicals:
Revelation 7
9After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb." 11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:
"Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!"
13Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?"
14I answered, "Sir, you know."
And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15Therefore,
"they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
16Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat upon them,
nor any scorching heat.
17For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
he will lead them to springs of living water.
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
The Seven Trumpets of Judgment:
• 1st Trumpet-Hail and fire mixed with blood is hurled to earth. 1/3 of the earth and trees were burned up but all of the green grass was burned up
• 2nd Trumpet-A huge mountain all ablaze (a meteor perhaps) was thrown into the sea as a result 1/3 of the sea was turned into blood, 1/3 creatures of the sea perished, and 1/3 of the ships were destroyed
• 3rd Trumpet –Great torching star WORMWOOD (comet perhaps); shall fall into 1/3 of the rivers and spring and as a result people shall die via the bitter tasting water from WORMWOOD (perhaps poisonous alkaloid from the star)
• 4th Trumpet-Celestial upheaval; 1/3 of the sun, moon, and stars were darkened; 1/3 of the day was without light and also 1/3 of the night
13As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: "Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!"
• 5th Trumpet –A star (Satan or demon) falls from the sky as a key to the shaft of the abyss. Out comes demonic locust that are commanded not to harm the tree or vegetation but those without the SEAL OF GOD to sting them and torment them (not kill them) for 5 months. Many will try to commit suicide but fail in their attempts for death eludes them. The demonic locusts have a leader call Abbadon in Hebrew or Apollyon in Greek which means: Destroyer
12The first woe is past; two other woes are yet to come.
• 6th Trumpet -4 angels released from the Euphrates River to kill 1/3 of mankind. They shall have two hundred million troops to do the slaughtering of the 1/3 of mankind. But do people repent and come to Jesus after all these horrors? No, they are so stubborn they rather curse God and suffer in agony than to humble themselves before the Sovereign Lord!
20The rest of mankind that were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. 21Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts.
• 7th Trumpet – 15The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:
"The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ,
and he will reign for ever and ever." 16And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17saying:
"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
and have begun to reign.
18The nations were angry; and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your saints and those who reverence your name,
both small and great—
and for destroying those who destroy the earth." 19Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.
The Prophecy against Gog; Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39:
Rogue nations that harbor malice and black hearted hatred towards Israel’s right to exist shall try once and for all to obliterate Israel as is written:
Psalm 83
4 "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation,
that the name of Israel be remembered no more."
They will attack Israel for numerous reasons besides their hatred towards them:
• They want to rebel against the sovereignty of world leader the Antichrist
• They want to strike wealth and riches
• Control over the oil and Israel is a great strategic area of control
• Rebellion against God
What are the nations that will do such a cowardly sneak attack on Israel when Israel’s defenses are nonexistent (Do notice SYRIA is not the nations that will join because they were probably destroyed by a battle between Israel and was destroyed even though Israel was hurt in the process before the rapture in accordance to the PROPHECY AGAINST DOMASCUS which can be found in Isaiah 17:1 %26amp; Amos 1:3-5)? These are the following nations that will try their vain attempt to “wipe Israel of the map”:
• Rosh-Russia people north of the Black Sea adjacent to the Caspian Sea (God will actually drag and force Russia to attack Israel with a hook in his jaw and drag him down like a jackass to the mountains of Israel)
• Magog-Areas of Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and possibly Afghanistan
• Meshech-Portions of Turkey
• Tubal- Portions of Turkey
• Cush-Ethiopia, Sudan, South of the Nile River
• Put-West of Egypt northern Africa Libya
• Gomer- Portions of Turkey
• Beth-togarmah- Portions of Turkey
(Notice almost all the Attackers of Israel is mostly Muslim Islamic) It would be Saudi Arabia, Great Britain, Lebanon, and the United states who will make a lame protest in wanting to know their intentions and motives in this attack:
13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her strong lions will say to you, "Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?" '
It will be God who will save his people Israel and he will be furious and his hot anger and wrath will be aroused. He will use Russia and her Islamic allies to attack Israel to demonstrate his power and might and to make himself known throughout the nations through Russia and her Islamic allies’ destruction by executing devastating natural catastrophe that even the creatures of the earth, sea and air will know it is God behind these disasters. God shall do the following to Russia and her Islamic allies:
• Great earthquake in the land of Israel
• Mountains, cliffs and every wall overturned
• Largest most humiliating friendly fire ever seen done to Russia and her Islamic allies
• Plagues and bloodshed
• Torrent rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on Russia and her Islamic allies
• God will strike the weapons out of the hands of Russia and her Islamic allies and sabotage their battle
After that the creature of the air and land will devour the flesh of Russia and her Islamic allies and for seven months the house of Israel shall bury the carcasses of Russia and her Islamic allies and the gravesite shall be called Valley of Hamon Gog which means Hordes of Gog. Israel will then use and burn as fuel the weapons of Russia and her Islamic allies for 7 years. Now burning weapons is possible since Russia is manufacturing a substance called LIGNOSTONE which is compressed laminated wood.
Satan Expelled from Heaven:
During all this time in heaven and towards the end of the first half of the 7 year tribulation (1,260 days) Satan has been making vain attempts to invalidate the saved raptured Christians in heaven (like hearing annoying comments from the peanut gallery). God having enough of hearing Satan’s unceasing dribble expels and hurls Satan back to Earth never to enter heaven again as if you read the book of Job. Satan infuriated goes and commences a holocaust on mammoth proportions on the Jews and Christians and persecutes those who obey God’s sovereign commandments. Now on Earth Good shall be evil and evil shall be good.
The Two Witnesses Assassinated and Resurrected:
The end of the 3 ½ years midpoint of the 7 year tribulations the invulnerability of the two witnesses shall be lifted and the Antichrist shall slay them both. For 3 ½ days their bodies lay. The inhabitants of the Earth see the death of the two witnesses and are so evil they refuse to bury their bodies and gloat over their death and even give gifts to each other!! At the end of the 3 ½ days a voice from heavens says, “Come”, and the two witnesses come to life, the inhabitants of the Earth are amazed and horrified by this and the two witnesses ascend into heaven via a cloud while their enemies looked on below. A great earthquake at that same hour shall ensue and 1/10 of the city is destroyed and 7,000 people are killed, those who survived terrified and gave glory to God in heaven, probably thanking God for sparing their lives.
The Antichrist Show his True Form:
In the midpoint of the Great Tribulation the Antichrist is no longer “Mr. nice guy” anymore and bare out his fangs as totalitarian brutal despot the world has never seen. All the combined despot and brutal dictators of the past such as Hitler or Joseph Stalin are puny mustard seeds compared to the Antichrist.
The Antichrist breaks the treaty with Israel and Defiles the Temple:
The Antichrist shall break his treaty with Israel and put a stop to all sacrifices and offering and has the audacious hubris to even enter the HOLIES OF HOLIES and sit on the throne of the Temple and declare himself “god” and demand worship!!
Some of the Jews Flee to Petra/Bozrah from the Antichrist’s Genocidal Persecution:
Now for those who do not understand the imagery the woman is Israel NOT Mary!! The moon and sun the woman (Israel) is clothed with and 12 stars over her head is an allusion to Joseph’s dream in Genesis 37:9. The moon and sun are Jacob and Rachel the forbearers of Israel and the 12 stars are the 12 Tribes of Israel. The Israelites heeding the warning of the 144,000 Jewish evangelicals and the two witnesses will flee to the desert of Petra/Bozrah that is located in southern Jordan. There Israel shall be supernaturally nourished and protected by God.
Enter the False Prophet:
The Antichrist shall have a close ally and confidant called the False Prophet (Beast of the Earth). He will enforce the worshiping of the Antichrist (Beast of the Sea) by forcing everyone to accept the MARK OF THE BEAST which is 666. Those who do not have the MARK OF THE BEAST cannot buy nor sell pretty much putting people in hostage to have to worship him otherwise you die of starvation. Those who blatantly refuse the MARK OF THE BEAST are brutally beheaded!! So in essence this will divided the pseudo-Christians from the real Christians, whether they are cowards to accept the MARK OF THE BEAST to save their skin or are loyal and obedient to God and refuse the MARK OF THE BEAST and thusly are beheaded thus earning themselves the Crown of life. Know this: anyone who receives the MARK OF THE BEAST is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN so do not accept it!!!
The Transfer of all Commerce to Babylon:
The Antichrist will transfer all commerce and the economy to the newly rebuilt Babylon which is south of modern day Bagdad, Iraq as a hubristic blatant rebellion against God and to segregate themselves from God.
The Dispatching of the 3 Angels to Proclaim the Everlasting Gospel:
God in his infinite mercy and grace (praise him the Sovereign Lord 7 folds!) shall do something he has never done in Biblical history: he will dispatch 3 powerful angels in the guise of humans to preach the everlasting gospel to every nation, tribe, language and people:
• 1st Angel- "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water."
• 2nd Angel-"Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries."
• 3rd Angel- "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."
13Then I heard a voice from heaven say, "Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on."
"Yes," says the Spirit, "they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them."
The Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath:
When the Antichrist sit on the throne and has the audacious hubris to even enter the HOLIES OF HOLIES and sit on the throne of the Temple and declare himself “god” and demand worship, the wrath and hot anger of God shall reach his pinnacle and he will execute judgments on the Earth and Babylon the Great for their grievous transgression. The Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath will ONLY affect those people who received the MARK OF THE BEAST and are the following:
• 1st Bowl-Ugly sores and festering boils
• 2nd Bowl-The Sea is turned into blood and the creatures of the sea die as a result.
• 3rd Bowl-Rivers and springs are turned into blood.
5Then I heard the angel in charge of the waters say:
"You are just in these judgments,
you who are and who were, the Holy One,
because you have so judged;
6for they have shed the blood of your saints and prophets,
and you have given them blood to drink as they deserve."
7And I heard the altar respond:
"Yes, Lord God Almighty,
true and just are your judgments."
This means that the martyrs (The fifth Seal of the Scroll) plea to God for vengeance for their deaths has been avenged! The wicked inhabitants got what was just and deserved for their shedding the blood of the innocent Christians who bore the testimony of Jesus. God in a way says you like blood, shedding blood of the innocent? Good! Now drink it you savage murderers!
• 4th Bowl-Scorching sun, not only the wicked inhabitants of the Earth grievously dehydrated but are felled with heat stroke. But do they repent, NO!
9They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.
• 5th Bowl-The Antichrist throne, Kingdom of Babylon is plunged into darkness. The wicked inhabitants of the Earth gnaw their tongues in agony. However, do they repent, NO!
11and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.
• 6th Bowl-The Euphrates River is dried up preparing the way of the king of the East (China perhaps)
*16Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.*
• 7th Bowl-The destruction of BABYLON never to rise again!! However, do they repent, NO!
17The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, "It is done!" 18Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.
The land of Israel and Jerusalem under Siege:
As written in the book of Zachariah:
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
The Antichrist will convince everyone that all these trouble are caused by the “Jewish problem”. And the only way to end the “Jewish problem” is to destroy and killed them all.
The Regeneration of the Jews:
The Jews in Petra/ Bozrah heeding the testimony of the two witnesses and the 144,000 Jewish Evangelicals finally understand that all these woes are happening because they transgressed upon the Sovereign Lord and his son Jesus. The Jewish leaders will command everyone to pray for Jesus to come and help them. Thus fulfilling this prophecy:
Ezekiel 11
19 I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. 20 Then they will follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. They will be my people, and I will be their God.
You see all this is happening because God wants to use to horror of GREAT TRIBULATIONS to SOFTEN the HARDEN HEARTS of the Jews. So in essence there shall be a small remnant of Jews saved because they have finally acknowledged their nation sin: THE REJECTION OF JESUS THE CHRIST!!!!
The Second Coming of Jesus and the Destruction of the Antichrist and his Forces:
Hearing the prayers of the Jews God dispatches his son Jesus to rescue his people O’ Israel. He lands his feet on Mount of Olives:
Zachariah14
3
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. 5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake [a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
Jesus comes in hot anger and wrath to slay the wicked with the word, the breath of God:
Isaiah 11
4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Isaiah 63
1 Who is this coming from Edom,
from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor,
striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
"It is I, speaking in righteousness,
mighty to save."
2 Why are your garments red,
like those of one treading the winepress?
3 "I have trodden the winepress alone;
from the nations no one was with me.
I trampled them in my anger
and trod them down in my wrath;
their blood spattered my garments,
and I stained all my clothing.
4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart,
and the year of my redemption has come.
5 I looked, but there was no one to help,
I was appalled that no one gave support;
so my own arm worked salvation for me,
and my own wrath sustained me.
6 I trampled the nations in my anger;
in my wrath I made them drunk
and poured their blood on the ground."
Revelation 19
11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
17And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."
19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
Jesus will destroy all Nations that Attack Israel and Jerusalem:
Zechariah 12
1 This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares: 2 "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. 3 On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. 4 On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the LORD. "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations. 5 Then the leaders of Judah will say in their hearts, 'The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the LORD Almighty is their God.'
6 "On that day I will make the leaders of Judah like a firepot in a woodpile, like a flaming torch among sheaves. They will consume right and left all the surrounding peoples, but Jerusalem will remain intact in her place.
7 "The LORD will save the dwellings of Judah first, so that the honor of the house of David and of Jerusalem's inhabitants may not be greater than that of Judah. 8 On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them. 9 On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.
Zechariah 14
12 This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. 13 On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing. 15 A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
Jesus will Forgive Israel for their rejection of him:
The small remnant will weep because they were solely responsible for his death and rejection:
Zechariah 12
10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit [a] of grace and supplication. They will look on [b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be great, like the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives.
Jesus of course forgives them:
Romans 11
26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
"The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins."[g]
The Antichrist and the False Prophet are captured and thrown in the lake of fire tormented day and night forever and ever.
The Millennium Years under Jesus’ Godly Government:
An angel comes down and imprisons Satan in the bottomless pit. Only the ones who are saved via faith in Jesus can enter the 1,000 years whether it would be Jew or Gentile (non-Jew) or raptured Gentile. The following are the benefits in living in the 1,000:
• 1,000 years of peace
• Healthy young strong bodies that are immune to diseases (the Adamic curse is partially lifted)
• All animals are tamed and no predatory animals or ones with venom, thus all are vegetarian
Isaiah 11
6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling [a] together;
and a little child will lead them.
7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper's nest.
9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
• Must celebrate the FEAST OF THE TABERNACLES OTHERWISE THAT COUNTRY WILL NOT GET RAIN!!!
• Nature is transformed into its glory like it was before Adam and Eve screwed it up!
• Growing with the Knowledge of God:
Jeremiah 31
33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time," declares the LORD.
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the LORD.
"For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."
Sad to say even under these utopia conditions people will still rebel since they have 100 years to accept Jesus otherwise they are accursed. It would be during the generation born into the 1,000 years that will rebel. At the end of the 1,000 years Satan is release from his prison and tempts the nation those mostly of the younger generation born into the 1,000 years to try to band together to destroy Jerusalem. But in vain for God unleashes fire from the heaven to consume them all!!
The Great White Throne:
Jesus will be the judge in this and anyone who stand before the GREAT WHITE THRONE is NOT SAVED!!! They are not written in the book of life and the only way a person can be written in the book of life is to freely accept Jesus. Those who are not saved are judged according to their works. A person who has rejected Jesus as their savior must be judged by the Mosaic Law and other various laws and that shall be the following:
• Rejecting the scriptures-There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. John 12:48
• Perverted and wicked secret thoughts-For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:14
• Idle words (i.e. dirty jokes) - But I tell you that men will have to give account on the Day of Judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." Matthew 12:36-37
• Slandering the Lord with hard speeches-Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him." Jude 1:14-15
• "Righteous" acts of an Atheist-An unbeliever's "good" deeds are filthy in the sight of the God. Now what worse word than filthy can you think of for the wicked deeds of an Atheist? For it is written:
Isaiah 64
6 All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
• Everyone will confess Jesus is Lord (even Satan)-You got it, even the ones who scoffer at God’s commandment and hated Jesus will genuflect with reverence and proclaim Jesus is Lord!! Everyone even Satan and his demon hordes:
Romans 14
For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.
Philippians 2
9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
• The Mosaic Law (10 Commandments)
Now when an unsaved are there before Christ it is useless to even utter the following:
• You did not give me enough proof of your existence…..God-since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. Romans1:19-20
• The Christians were a bunch of hypocrites so thus it tarnished the creditability of Christianity-not going to fly by God. It is like they say Christians are not perfect-far from it-just forgiven!
• Can you give me a second chance?-No you had your chance will you were alive!
• I knew about you God I read the scriptures-Knowing God is does not save you in fact Satan and his demon hordes know of Jesus and God, for it is written:
In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an evil spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice, "Ha! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!" "Be quiet!" Jesus said sternly. "Come out of him!" Then the demon threw the man down before them all and came out without injuring him. Luke 4:33-35
Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ. Luke 4:41
Having faith in God and obeying his commandments and accepting God’s free gift of salvation that is how you get saved not by trying to be a Bible bookworm, you see the Pharisees were well versed in scriptures (Just like Satan) but they had too much pride, and were spiritually blind to see Jesus as the Messiah and did not exhibit love and faith.
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
Those who are not saved will be thrown into the lake of fire tormented forever!!!
Revelation 20
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
The New Heaven and New earth:
The ones who are saved written in the book of life that is, are to partake the new heaven and new Earth:
Revelation 21
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb." 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia[a]in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits[b] thick,[c] by man's measurement, which the angel was using. 18The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[d] 21The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.
22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. 25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it. 27Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 22
1Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. 6The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."
Freewill to accept Jesus as your savior or not:
Revelation 22
11Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."
17The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
The free gift of the water of Life is Jesus the Christ but one must come to him willingly and freely and voluntarily. God did not want robots but those who wish to love the Lord by coming to him. It is freewill to do good or ill….what is your choice?
pistil
This Reverend gentleman was expounding Biblical prophecies. He went on to prove that the Christian Bible foretold the rise of Soviet Russia, and the Last Days. At one stage he went to the extent of proving that his Holy Book did not leave even the Pope out of its predictions. He expatiated vigorously in order to convince his audience that the "Beast 666" mentioned in the Book of Revelation the last book of the New Testament was the POPE, who was the Vicar of Christ on earth. It is not befitting for us Muslims to enter into this controversy between the Roman Catholics and the Protestants. By the way, the latest Christian exposition of the "Beast 666" of the Christian Bible is Dr.Henry Kissinger1. Christian scholars are ingenious and indefatigable in their efforts to prove their case.
Rev. Hiten's lectures led me to ask that if the Bible foretold so many things - not even excluding the "Pope" and "Israel" - then surely it must have something to say about the greatest benefactor of mankind2, the Holy Prophet Muhammed (may the peace of Allah be upon him).
As a youngster I set out to search for an answer. I met priest after priest, attended lectures, and read everything that I could lay my hands relating to the fields of Bible prophecies. Tonight I am going to narrate to you one of these interviews with a dominee3 of the Dutch Reformed Church.
1. Christian exegesists give progressive numerical values by sixes, to the English alphabet and add up to get the total 666. i.e.A=6,B=12,C=18, D=24 and so on. Progression by 6's because the number of the Beast in the Bible is "666". Try it for Dr.Kissinger.
2. The writer has just delivered another talk in the City Hall, Durban on the 10th December, 1975 on the subject "Muhummed the Greatest".
3. "Dominee" is the Afrikaans equivalent of priest, parson and predikant.
Lucky Thirteen
I was invited to the Transvaal1 to deliver a talk on the occasion of Birthday celebration of the Holy Prophet Muhammed. Knowing that in that province of the Republic, the Afrikaans language is widely spoken, even by my own people, I felt that I ought to acquire a smattering of this language so a s to feel a little "at home" with the people. I opened the telephone directory and began phoning the Afrikaans-speaking Churches. I indicated my purpose to the priests that I was interested in having a dialogue with them, but they all refused my request with "Plausible" excuses. No.13 was my lucky number. The thirteenth call brought me pleasure and relief. A dominee Van Heerden agreed to meet me at his home on the Saturday afternoon that I was to leave for Transvaal.
He received me on his verandah with a friendly welcome. He said if I did not mind, he would like his father-in-law from the Free State (a 70 year old man) to join us in the discussion. I did not mind. The three of us settled down in the dominee's library.
1. One of the Provinces of the Republic of South Africa.
Why nothing?
I posed the question: "What does the Bible say about Muhummed?" Without hesitation he answered, "Nothing!" I asked: "Why nothing? According to your interpretation the Bible have so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia and about the Last Days and even about the Pope of the Roman Catholics?" He said, "Yes, but there was nothing about Muhummed!" I asked again, "Why nothing? Surely this man Muhummed who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of Believers who, on his authority, believe in:
(1) the miraculous birth of Jesus,
(2) that Jesus is the Messiah,1
(3) that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission.
Surely this book (the Bible) must have something to say about this great Leader of men who spoke so well of Jesus and his mother Mary?" (Peace be upon them both).
The old man from the Free State replied. "My son, I have been reading the Bible for the past 50 years, and if there was any mention of him, I would have known it."
1. The word "Messiah" comes from the Arabic and Hebrew word masaha which means to rub, to massage, to annoint. The religious significance is "the one who is anointed" - priests and kings were anointed in consecration to their offices. Messiah translated Christ does not mean God. Even the heathen Cyrus is called "Christ" in the Bible, (Isaiah 45:1)
Not One by name!
I enquired: "According to you, are there not hundreds of prophecies regarding the coming of Jesus in the Old Testament." The dominee interjected: "Not hundreds, but thousands!" I said, "I am not going to dispute the 'thousand and one' prophecies in the Old Testament regarding the coming of Jesus Christ, because the whole Muslim-world has already accepted him without the testimony of any Biblical prophecy. We Muslims have accepted the de facto Jesus on the authority of Muhummed alone, and there are in the world today no less than 900,000,0001 followers of Muhummed who love, respect and revere this great Messenger of God -Jesus Christ- without having the Christians to convince them by means of their Biblical dialectics. Out of the 'thousands' of prophecies referred to, can you please give me just one single prophecy where Jesus is mentioned by name? The term 'Messiah', translated as 'Christ', is not a name but a title. Is there a single Prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be JESUS, and that his mother's name will be MARY, that his supposed father will be JOSEPH THE CARPENTER; that he will be born in the reign of HEROD THE KING, etc. etc.? No! There are no such details! Then how can you conclude that those 'thousand' Prophecies refer to Jesus (Peace be upon him)?"
1. This was first written in 1976.
What is Prophecy?
The dominee replied: "You see, prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future. When that thing actually comes to pass, we see vividly in these prophecies the fulfilment of what had been predicted in the past." I said: "What you actually do is that you deduce, you reason, you put two and two together." He said: "Yes." I said: "If this is what you have to do with a 'thousand' prophecies to justify your claim with regards to the genuineness of Jesus, why should we not adopt the very same system for Muhummed?"1 The dominee agreed that it was a fair proposition , a reasonable way of dealing with the problem.
I asked him to open up Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 18, which he did. I read from memory the verse in Afrikaans, because this was my purpose in having a little practice with the language of the ruling race in South Africa.2
'N PROFEET SAL EK VIR HULLE VERWEK UIT DIE MIDDE VAN HULLE BROERS, SOOS JY IS, EN EK SAL MY WOORDE IN SY MOND LE, EN HY SY SAL AAN HULLE SE ALLE WAT EK HOM BEVEEL. Deut.18: 18.
The English translation reads as follows:-
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like unto thee,
and I will put my words in his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
(HOLY BIBLE) Deuteronomy 18:18.
1. Muhummed is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon 5:16. The Hebrew word used there is Muhammuddim. The end letters IM is plural of respect majesty and grandeur. Minus "im" the name would be Muhamud translated as "altogether lovely" in the Authorised Version of the Bible or 'The Praised One' 'the one worthy of Praise' i.e. MUHUMMED!(P.B.U.H)
2. If this booklet is translated into any language, please change the Afrikaans words into the local dialect; and do not try a free hand translation of the Biblical quotation. Obtain a Bible in the language in which translation is being made and transcribe exactly as the words occur in that Bible.
Prophet Like Moses
Having recited the verse in Afrikaans, I apologised for my uncertain pronunciation, The dominee assured me that I was doing fine. I enquired: "To whom does this prophecy refer?" Without the slightest hesitation he answered: "JESUS!" I asked: "Why Jesus?... his name is not mentioned here." The dominee replied: "Since prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future, we find that the wordings of this verse adequately describe him. You see the most important words of this prophecy are 'SOOS JY IS' (like unto thee), - LIKE YOU - like Moses, and Jesus is like Moses. I questioned: "In which way is Jesus like Moses?" The answer was: "In the first place Moses was a JEW and Jesus was also a JEW; secondly, Moses was a PROPHET and Jesus was also a PROPHET - therefore Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God had foretold Moses - "SOOS JY IS". "Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?" I asked. The dominee said that he could not think of any. I replied: "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL "Jews" as well as "Prophets". Why should we not apply this prophecy to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of another?" The dominee had no reply. I continued: "You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I am wrong I would like you to correct me."
Three Unlikes
So saying, I reasoned with him:
"In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to You - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses!
"SECONDLY, according to You - 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?" He again said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"
"THIRDLY, according to You - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?" He answered meekly: "Y-e-s." I concluded: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"
"But dominee," I continued: "these are not hard facts, solid facts, they are mere matters of belief over which the little ones can stumble and fall. Let us discuss something very simple, very easy that if your little ones are called in to hear the discussion, would have no difficulty in following it, shall we?" The dominee was quiet happy at the suggestion.
CHAPTER TWO
Eight Irrefutable Arguments
Father and Mother
(1) "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhummed also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "DAAROM IS JESUS NIE SOOS MOSES NIE, MAAR MUHUMMED IS SOOS MOSES!" Meaning: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses!" (By now the reader will realise that I was using the Afrikaans language only for practice purposes. I shall discontinue its use in this narration).
Miraculous Birth
(2) "Moses and Muhummed were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special miracle. You will recall that we are told in the Gospel of St. Matthew 1:18 ".....BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER,(Joseph the Carpenter and Mary) SHE WAS FOUND WITH CHILD BY THE HOLY GHOST." And St.Luke tells us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announced to her, Mary reasoned: "...HOW SHALL THIS BE, SEEING I KNOW NOT A MAN? AND THE ANGEL ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HER, THE HOLY GHOST SHALL COME UPON THEE, AND THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST SHALL OVERSHADOW THEE..." (Luke 1:35). The Holy Qur'an confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus, in nobler and sublimer terms. In answer to her logical question:
" O MY LORD! HOW SHALL I HAVE A SON WHEN NO MAN HATH TOUCHED ME? "
The angel says in reply:
"EVEN SO: ALLAH CREATETH WHAT HE WILLETH:
WHEN HE HATH DECREED A PLAN,
HE BUT SAITH TO IT "BE,"
AND IT IS " 1
(HOLY QUR'AN, 3:47).
It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the of birth of Jesus. (When I compared the Qur'an and the Biblical versions of the birth of Jesus to the head of the Bible Society in our largest City, and when I enquired: "Which version would you prefer to give your daughter, the QUR'ANIC version or the BIBLICAL version?" The man bowed his head and answered: "The Qur'anic.") In short, I said to the dominee: "Is it true that Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and Muhummed?" He replied proudly: "Yes!" I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" (Like You, Like Moses) and Muhummed is like Moses."
1. Please open the Holy Qur'an 3:42 and 19:16 where the birth of Jesus is spoken about; read it with the commentry, note the high position which Jesus and his mother occupy in Islam.
Marriage Ties
(3) "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses."
Jesus Rejected by his People
(4) "Moses and Muhummed were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness, but as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a Messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhummed's life impossible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Mecca, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible: 'He (Jesus) CAME UNTO HIS OWN, BUT HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT.' (John 1:11). And even today, after two thousand years, his people- the Jews, as a whole, have rejected him. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "THEREFORE JESUS IS NOT LIKE MOSES, BUT MUHUMMED IS LIKE MOSES."
"Other-Wordly" Kingdom
(5) "Moses and Muhummed were prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of Man and this Guidance he conveys to God's creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch: if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment - HE IS A KING. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day, and Moses had him stoned to death? (Numbers- 15:13). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhummed too, had the power of life and death over his people.
There are instances in the Bible of persons who were given gift of prophecy only, but they were not in a position to implement their directives. Some of these holy men of God who were helpless in the face of stubborn rejection of their message, were the prophets lot, Jonah, Daniel, Ezra, and John the Baptist. They could only deliver the message, but could not enforce the Law. The Holy Prophet Jesus (Peace p.b.u.h) also belonged to this category. The Christian Gospel clearly confirms this: when Jesus was dragged before the Roman Governor, Pontius Pilate, Charged for sedition, Jesus made a convincing point in his defence to refute the false charge: JESUS ANSWERED, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD': IF MY KINGDOM WERE OF THIS WORLD, THEN WOULD MY SERVANTS FIGHT, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO THE JEWS; BUT NOW IS MY KINGDOM NOT FROM HENCE" (John 18:36) This convinced Pilate (A Pagan) that though Jesus might not be in full possession of his mental faculty, he did not strike him as being a danger to his rule. Jesus claimed a spiritual Kingdom only; in other words he only claimed to be a Prophet. Is this true?" The dominee answered: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
No New Laws
(6) "Moses and Muhummed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for the guidance of his people. Muhummed comes to a people steeped in barbarism and ignorance. They married their step-mothers; they buried their daughters alive; drunkenness, adultery, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. Gibbon describe the Arabs before Islam in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire", THE HUMAN BRUTE, ALMOST WITHOUT SENSE, IS POORLY DISTINGUISHED FROM THE REST OF THE ANIMAL CREATION.' There was hardly anything to distinguish between the "man" and the "animal" of the time; they were animals in human form.
"From this abject barbarism, Muhummed elevated them, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, "into torch-bearers of light and learning.' 'TO THE ARAB NATION IT WAS AS A BIRTH FROM DARKNESS INTO LIGHT. ARABIA FIRST BECAME ALIVE BY MEANS OF IT. A POOR SHEPHERD PEOPLE, ROAMING UNNOTICED IN ITS DESERTS SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. SEE, THE UNNOTICED BECOMES WORLD NOTABLE, THE SMALL HAS GROWN WORLD-GREAT. WITHIN ONE CENTURY AFTERWARDS ARABIA WAS AT GRANADA ON ONE HAND AND AT DELHI ON THE OTHER. GLANCING IN VALOUR AND SPLENDOUR, AND THE LIGHT OF GENIUS, ARABIA SHINES OVER A GREAT SECTION OF THE WORLD. ..." The fact is that Muhummed gave his people a Law and Order they never had before.
As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an impostor with designs to pervert their teachings, Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no new laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words: 'THINK NOT THAT I AM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: I AM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'(Mathew 5:17-18). In other words he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfil the old law. This what he gave the Jews to understand- unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This Messenger of God would never resort to such fo ul means to subvert the Religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say, 'why don't you fast' or 'why don't you wash your hands before you break bread',which charges they always levied against his disciples, but never against Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honoured the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhummed. Is this true?" I asked the dominee, and he answered: "Yes." I said: "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
How they Departed
(7) "Both Moses and Muhummed died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was violently killed on the cross.1 Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I averred: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
Heavenly Abode
(8) "Moses and Muhummed both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus in heaven. Is this true?" The dominee agreed. I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
1. For a full exposition of this topic, see "CRUCIFIXION OR CRUCI-FICTION?".
CHAPTER THREE
Further Proofs
Ishmael The First Born
Since the dominee was helplessly agreeing with every point, I said, "Dominee, so far what I have done is to prove only one point out of the whole prophecy- that is proving the phrase 'LIKE UNTO THEE' - 'Like You' - 'Like Moses'. The Prophecy is much more than this single phrase which reads as follows : "I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN LIKE UNTO THEE......." The emphasis is on the words- "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly be the Arabs. You see, the Holy Bible speaks of Abraham as the "Friend of God". Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - HIS FIRST-BORN- '......And Abraham1 called HIS SON'S name, which Hagar bare Ishmael.' (Genesis 16:15). 'And Abraham took Ishmael HIS SON......" (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael HIS SON was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.'(Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of THIRTEEN Ishmael was the ONLY son and seed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael.
1. According to the Bible, Abraham's name was Abram before it was changed by God to Abraham.
Arabs and Jews
If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among themselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!
Words in the Mouth
"The prophecy proceeds further:'.......AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH.......' What does it mean when it is said 'I will put my words in your mouth'? You see, when I asked you (the dominee) to open Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18, at the beginning, and if I had asked you to read, and if you had read: would I be putting my words into your mouth?" The dominee answered: "No." "But," I continued: "If I were to teach you a language like Arabic about which you have no knowledge, and if I asked you to read or repeat after me what I utter i.e.
( I read them in Arabic )
Would I not be putting these unheard words of a foreign tongue which you utter, into your mouth?" The dominee agreed that it was indeed so. In an identical manner, I said, the words of the Holy Qur'an, the Revelation vouchsafed by the Almighty God to Muhummed, were revealed.
History tells us that Muhummed was forty years of age. He was in a cave some three miles north of the City of Mecca. It was the 27th night of the Muslim month of Ramadaan. In the cave the Archangel Gabriel commands him in his mother tongue: 'IQRA' which means READ! or PROCLAIM! or RECITE! Muhummed is terrified and in his bewilderment replies " MA ANA BEQARA which means I AM NOT LEARNED! The angel commands him a second time with the same result. For the third time the angel continues.
Now Muhummed, grasps, that what was required of him was to repeat! to rehearse! And he repeats the words as they were put into his mouth:
These are the first five verses which were revealed to Muhummed which now occupy the beginning of the 96th chapter of the Holy Qur'an.
The Faithful Witness
Immediately the angel had departed, Muhummed rushed to his home. Terrified and sweating all over he asked his beloved wife Khadija to 'cover him up!' He lay down, and she watched by him. When he had regained his composure, he explained to her what he had seen and heard. She assured him of her faith in him and that Allah would not allow any terrible thing to happen to him. Are these the confessions of an impostor? Would impostors confess that when an angel of the Lord confronts them with a Message from on High, they get fear-stricken, terrified, and sweating all over, run home to their wives? Any critic can see that his reactions and confessions are that of an honest, sincere man, the man of Truth- 'AL-AMIN' - THE Honest, the Upright, the Truthful.
During the next twenty-three years of his prophetic life, words were 'Put into his mouth', and he uttered them. They made an indeliable impression on his heart and mind: and as the volume of the Sacred Scripture (Holy Qur'an) grew, they were recorded on palm-leaf fibre, on skins and on the shoulder-blades of animals; and in the hearts of his devoted disciples. Before his demise these words were arranged according to his instructions i n the order in which we find them today in the Holy Qur'an.
The words (revelation) were actually put into his mouth, exactly as foretold in the prophecy under discusion: 'AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.' (Deut. 18:18).
Un-lettered Prophet
Muhummed's experience in the cave of Hira, later to be known as Jabal-un Noor - The Mountain of Light, and his response to that first Revelation is the exact fulfilment of another Biblical Prophecy. In the Book of Isaiah, Chapter 29, verse 12, we read: "AND THE BOOK" (al-Kitaab,al-Quran the 'Reading', the 'Recitation') "IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED," (Isaiah 29:12) "THE UNLETTERED PROPHET " (Holy Qur'an 7:158) and the biblical verse continues : "SAYING, READ THIS, I PRAY THEE:" (the words "I pray thee", are not in the Hebrew manuscripts; compare with the Roman Catholics' "Douay Version and also with the "Revised Standard Versions") "AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." ("I am not learned." is the exact translation of the Arabic words MA ANA BEQARA which Muhummed uttered twice to the Holy Ghost - the Archangel Gabriel, when he was commanded : IQRAA "READ!").
Let me quote the verse in full without a break as found in the "King James Version," or the "Authorised version" as it is more popularly known "AND THE BOOK IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED, SAYING, READ THIS I PRAY THEE: AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." (Isaiah 29:12).
Important note :
It may be noted that there were no Arabic Bibles in existence in the 6th Century of the Christian Era when Muhummed lived and preached! Besides, he was absolutely unlettered and unlearned. No human had ever taught him a word. His teacher was his Creator:
Without any human learning, 'he put to shame the wisdom of the learned'."
(12) There are today Arabic Bibles in Fourteen different scripts and dialects for the Arabs alone. See "The Gospels in many tongues".
Grave Warning
"See!" I told the dominee, "how the prophecies fit Muhummed like a glove. We do not have to stretch prophecies to justify their fulfilment in Muhummed."
The dominee replied, "All your expositions sound very well, but they are of no real consequence, because we Christians have Jesus Christ the "incarnate" God, who has redeemed us from the Bondage of Sin!"
I asked, "Not important?" God didn't think so! He went to a great deal of trouble to have His warnings recorded. God knew that there would be people like you who will flippantly, light-heartedly discount his words, so he followed up Deuteronomy 18:18 with a dire warning: "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, " (it is going to happen) "THAT WHOSOEVER WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME, I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM. (in the Catholic Bible the ending words are - "I will be the revenger", I will take vengeance from him - I will take revenge!) "Does not this terrify you? God Almighty is threatening revenge! We shake in our pants if some hoodlum threathens us, yet you have no fear of God's warning?"
"Miracle of Miracles! in the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfilment of the prophecy in Muhummed! Note the words-'.....MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME," In whose name is Muhummed speaking?" I opened Yusuf Ali's translation of the Holy Qur'an, at chapter 114- 'Sura Nas', or Mankind - the last chapter, and showed him the formula at the head of the chapter:
and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL." And the heading of chapter 113:
and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL". And every chapter downwards 112 , 111, 110.......was the same formula and the same meaning on every page, because the end SURAS (chapters) are short and take about a page each.
"And what did the prophecy demand?' ......WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME and in whose name does Muhummed speak? 'IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.' The Prophecy is being fulfilled in Muhummed to the letter
"Every chapter of the Holy Qur'an except the 9th begin with the formula: IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.' The Muslim begins his every lawful act with the Holy formula. But the Christian begins: "In the name of the Father, son and holy ghost.'"1
Concerning Deuteronomy chapter eighteen, I have given you more than 15 reasons as to how this prophecy refers to Muhummed and NOT to Jesus.
1. The Christian theologians are ignorant of even the "name of God. Because "God" is not a name, and "Father" is also not a name. See "WHAT IS HIS NAME?".
CHAPTER FOUR
New Testament Also Confirms
Baptist Contradicts Jesus
In New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfilment of the prophecy of 'ONE LIKE MOSES', refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to enquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:
".......ELIAS TRULY SHALL FIRST COME, AND RESTORE ALL THINGS. BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT ELIAS IS COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT,...THEN THE DISCIPLES UNDERSTOOD THAT HE SPAKE UNTO THEM OF JOHN THE BAPTIST." (Matthew 17:11-13).
According to the New Testament the Jews were not the ones to swallow the words of any would-be Messiah. In their investigations they underwent intense difficulties in order to find their true Messiah. And this the Gospel of John confirms: "AND THIS IS THE RECORD OF JOHN,"(the Baptist) "WHEN THE JEWS SENT PRIESTS AND LEVITES FROM JERUSALEM TO ASK HIM, WHO ART THOU? AND HE CONFESSED AND DENIED NOT; BUT CONFESSED, I AM NOT THE CHRIST." (This was only natural because there can't be two Messiahs1 at the same time. If Jesus was the Christ then John couldn't be the Christ!) "AND THEY ASKED HIM, WHAT THEN? ART THOU ELIAS? AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT." (Here John the Baptist contradicts Jesus! Jesus says that John is "Elias" and John denies that he is what Jesus ascribes him to be. One of the TWO (Jesus or John), God forbid!, is definitely not speaking the TRUTH! On the testimony of Jesus himself, John the Baptist was the greatest of the Israelite prophets: "VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, AMONG THEM THAT ARE BORN OF WOMEN THERE HAS NOT RISEN A GREATER THAN JOHN THE BAPTIST:... "(Matthew 11:11).
We Muslims know John the Baptist as Hazrut YAHYAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him). We revere him as a true prophet of Allah. The Holy Prophet Jesus known to us as Hazrut ISAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him), is also esteemed as one of the mightiest messenger of the Almighty. How can we Muslims impute lies to either of them? We leave this problem between Jesus and John for the Christians to solve, for their "sacred scriptures" abound in discrepancies which they have been glossing over as the "dark sayings of Jesus"(15). We Muslims are really interested in the last questions posed to John the Baptist by the Jewish elite- "ART THOU THAT PROPHET? AND HE ANSWERED, NO." (John 1:21)
1. The Jews were expecting a single Messiah not two.
2. See the "TIMES" Magazine December 30th, 1974, article "How true is the Bible?" And also see "50,000 Errors in the Bible?" a reproduction from the Christian Magazine "AWAKE!" September 8, 1957.
Three Questions!
Please note that three different and distinct questions were posed to John the Baptist and to which he gave three emphatic "NO'S" as answers. To recapitulate:-
1) ART THOU THE CHRIST?
2) ART THOU ELIAS?
3) ART THOU THAT PROPHET?
But the learned men of Christendom somehow only see two questions implied here. To make doubly clear that the Jews definitely had T-H-R-E-E separate prophecies in their minds when they were interrogating John the Baptist, let us read the remonstrance of the Jews in the verses following:
"AND THEY ASKED HIM, AND SAID UNTO HIM, WHY BAPTIZEST THOU THEN, IF THOU BE
a) NOT THAT CHRIST,
b) NOR ELIAS,
c) NEITHER THAT PROPHET?" (John 1:25)
The Jews were waiting for the fulfilment of THREE distinct prophecies: One, the coming of CHRIST. Two the coming of ELIAS, and Three, the coming of THAT PROPHET.
"That Prophet"
If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, the we will find in the marginal note where the words "the Prophet", or "that Prophet" occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that 'that prophet' - 'the prophet like Moses' - "LIKE UNTO THEE", we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was MUHUMMED and not Jesus!
We Muslims are not denying that Jesus was the "Messiah", which word is translated as "Christ".1 We are not contesting the "thousand and one prophecies" which the Christians claim abound in the Old Testament foretelling the coming of the Messiah. What we say is that Deuteronomy 18:18 does NOT refer to Jesus Christ but it is an explicit prophecy about the Holy Prophet MUHUMMED!"
The dominee, very politely parted with me by saying that it was a very interesting discussion and he would like me very much to come one day and address his congregation on the subject. A decade and half has passed since then but I am still awaiting that privilege.
I believe the dominee was sincere when he made the offer, but prejudices die hard and who would like to loose his sheep?
1. How the word Messiah was transmuted to Christ?. See "Christ in Islam"
The Acid Test
To the lambs of Christ I say, why not apply that acid test which the Master himself wanted you to apply to any would be claimant to prophethood? He had said: "BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. DO MEN GATHER GRAPES FROM THE THORNS, OR FIGS FROM THE THISTLES? EVERY GOOD TREE WILL BEAR GOOD FRUIT AND EVERY EVIL TREE WILL BEAR EVIL FRUIT....BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. (Matthew 7:16-20).
Why are you afraid to apply this test to the teachings of Muhummed? You will find in the Last Testament of God - the Holy Qur'an - the true fulfilment of the teachings of Moses and Jesus which will bring to the world the much-needed peace and happiness. "IF A MAN LIKE MOHAMED WERE TO ASSUME THE DIC TATORSHIP OF THE MODERN WORLD, HE WOULD SUCCEED IN SOLVING ITS PROBLEMS THAT WOULD BRING IT THE MUCH NEEDED PEACE AND HAPPINESS."
(George Bernard Shaw)
The Greatest!
The Weekly Newsmagazine "TIME" dated July 15, 1974, carried a selection of opinions by various historians, writers, military men, businessmen and others on the subject: "Who Were History's Great Leaders?" Some said that it was Hitler; others said - Gandhi, Buddha, Lincoln and the like. But Jules Masserman, a United States psychoanalyst put the standards straight by giving the correct criteria wherewith to judge. He said:
"LEADERS MUST FULFIL THREE FUNCTIONS:-
(1) Provide for the well-being of the led,
(2) Provide a social organization in which people feel relatively secure
and
(3) Provide them with one set of beliefs."
With the above three criteria he searches history and analyses - Hitler, Pasteur, Gaesar, Moses, Confucius and the lot, and ultimately concludes:
"PEOPLE LIKE PASTEUR AND SALK ARE LEADERS IN THE FIRST SENSE. PEOPLE LIKE GANDHI AND CONFUCIUS, ON ONE HAND, AND ALEXANDER, CAESAR AND HITLER ON THE OTHER, ARE LEADERS IN THE SECOND AND PERHAPS THE THIRD SENSE. JESUS AND BUDDHA BELONG IN THE THIRD CATEGORY ALONE. PERHAPS THE GREATEST LEADER OF ALL TIMES WAS MOHAMMED, WHO COMBINED ALL THREE FUNCTIONS. To a lesser degree, MOSES DID THE SAME."
According to the objective standards set by the Professor of the Chicago University, whom I believe to be Jewish, - JESUS and BUDDHA are now - here in the picture of the "Great Leaders of Mankind", but by a queer coincidence groups Moses and Muhummed together thus adding further weight to the argument that JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like MOSES: Deut.18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" - Like MOSES!
Reverend James L. Dow in Collins Dictionary of the Bible gives further proof, that JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like Moses: "AS A STATESMAN AND LAWGIVER MOSES IS THE CREATOR OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. HE FOUND A LOOSE CONGLOMERATION OF SEMITIC PEOPLE, NONE OF ......
*Also in "THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF RELIGION", Moses is looked upon in the different traditions. Under Moses in Islam; we read
"MOSES IS HIGHLY REGARDED IN ISLAM AS THE GREAT PROPHET WHO FORETOLD THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD, HIS SUCCESSOR...THERE IS MUCH IN THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD THAT IS IMPLICITLY REMINISCENT OF THE MOSES TRADITION.
P121, THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF RELIGION, Mircea Eliade (EDITOR IN CHIEF)
Volume 10, Macmillean Publishing Company
In conclusion, I end with a quotation of a Christian Reverend the commentator of the Bible, followed by that of his Master:
"THE ULTIMATE CRITERION OF A TRUE PROPHET IS THE MORAL CHARACTER OF HIS TEACHING."
(Prof. Dummelow.)
"BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM."
(Jesus Christ)
COME LET US REASON TOGETHER
SAY:"O PEOPLE OF THE BOOK!
COME TO COMMON TERMS AS BETWEEN US AND YOU:
THAT WE WORSHIP NONE BUT GOD;
THAT WE ASSOCIATE NO PARTNERS WITH HIM;
THAT WE ERECT NOT, FROM AMONG OURSELVES,
LORDS AND PATRONS OTHER THAN GOD."
IF THEN THEY TURN BACK,
SAY:"BEAR WITNESS THAT WE (AT LEAST)
ARE MUSLIMS (BOWING TO GOD'S WILL)."
(SURA AL-I-'IMRAN) Holy Qur'an 3:64
"PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" is the respectful title given to the Jews and the Christians in the Holy Qur'an. The Muslims is here commanded to invite - "O People of the Book!" - O Learned People! O People who claim to be the recipients of Divine Revelation, of a Holy Scripture; let us gather together onto a common platform - "that we worship none but God", because none but God is worthy of worship, not because "THE LORD THY GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD VISITING THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS UPON THE CHILDREN UNTO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION OF THEM THAT HATE ME." (Exodus 20:25). But because He is our Lord and Cherisher, our Sustainer and Evolver, worthy of all praise, prayer and devotion.
In the abstract the Jews and the Christians would agree to all the three propositions contained in this Qur'anic verse. In practice they fail. Apart from doctrinal lapses from the unity of the One True God, (ALLAH Subhanahu wa ta-ala) there is the question of a consecrated Priesthood (among the Jews it was hereditary also), as if a mere human being - Cohen or Pope, or Priest, or Brahman, - could claim superiority apart from his learning and the purity of his life, or could stand between man and God in some special sense. ISLAM DOES NOT RECOGNISE PRIESTHOOD!
The Creed of Islam is given to us here in a nutshell from Holy Qur'an:
Say ye: "We believe in Allah,
And the revelation given to us,
And to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac,
Jacob, and the Tribes,
And that given to Moses and Jesus
And that given to (all)
Prophets from their Lord:
We make no difference
Between one and another of them:
And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
(SURA BAQARA) Holy Qur'an 2:136.
The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all Religion is one, for the Truth is one. IT WAS THE SAME RELIGION PREACHED BY ALL THE EARLIER PROPHETS. (Holy Qur'an 42:13). It was the truth taught by all the inspired Books. In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of God and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. IF ANYONE WANTS A RELIGION OTHER THAN THAT, HE IS FALSE TO HIS OWN NATURE, AS HE IS FALSE TO GOD'S WILL AND PLAN. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance.
All that in the bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
You have set a record for the longest question on YA.
And for the question that nobody has taken the time to read.
The best answer would be to note that Jerusalem is a key issue in the attempt by Arabs to destroy Israel.
The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes:
"Any opposition to this order...is an obstacle to the holy war...and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts" (Morris, Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986).
The Arab Higher Committee ordered the evacuation of several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more in April-July 1948. The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way (The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, MA: Cambridge University Press, 2004, p. 592).
Whenever the Temple Mount or Jerusalem is mentioned, it is usually remarked that is "the third holy place for Muslims", but why it is never said that is the FIRST Holy Place for Jews? It sounds like utterly biased information!
The role Jerusalem has in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures is well known and not open to debate; however, there are varying opinions on the holiness of Jerusalem, specifically the Temple Mount to Islam.
In fact, the Islamic claim to the Temple Mount is very recent. Jerusalem's role as "The Third Holiest Site in Islam" in mainstream Islamic writings does not precede the 1930s. It was created by the grand mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini.
Muslims claim that their prophet was once in Jerusalem (an event that is not mentioned in the Quran either). It appears evident that he did not meet any Palestinian in his whole life, nor did his successors either.
Caliph Salahuddin al-Ayyub (Saladin), knew the Jews and kindly invited them to settle in Jerusalem, that he recognized as their Homeland, but he did not know any Palestinian.
Jerusalem is a key issue in the attempt by Arabs to destroy Israel.
The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes:
"Any opposition to this order...is an obstacle to the holy war...and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts" (Morris, Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986).
The Arab Higher Committee ordered the evacuation of several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more in April-July 1948. The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way (The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, MA: Cambridge University Press, 2004, p. 592).
Whenever the Temple Mount or Jerusalem is mentioned, it is usually remarked that is "the third holy place for Muslims", but why it is never said that is the FIRST Holy Place for Jews? It sounds like utterly biased information!
In fact, the Islamic claim to the Temple Mount is very recent. Jerusalem's role as "The Third Holiest Site in Islam" in mainstream Islamic writings does not precede the 1930s. It was created by the grand mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini.
Muslims claim that their prophet was once in Jerusalem (an event that is not mentioned in the Quran either). It appears evident that he did not meet any Palestinian in his whole life, nor his successors did either.
Caliph Salahuddin al-Ayyub (Saladin), knew the Jews and kindly invited them to settle in Jerusalem, that he recognized as their Homeland, but he did not know any Palestinian.
To claim that Palestinians are the original people of the Land of Israel is not only against secular history but also against Islamic history.
In the year 985, the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained that in Jerusalem the large majority of the population were Jewish, and said that "the mosque is empty of worshipers..." .
Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, wrote in the year 1377:
"Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years... It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement".
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Reply:Thanks. A good read. May God Bless You!
Reply:My dear brother, Please refrain yourself from posting the longest question ever known to human history....
Just ask simple ones...
Reply:You say that the Koran is the last testament given by God. Mormons would say they have the last testament of Jesus Christ. You are both wrong, since both books strongly contradict the teachings of the bible. Unlike the Bible, the Koran says that if someone will not convert you are to kill them. It says that if your wife gets out of line to take her to the side and beat her. It's a book of hate. It is no wonder that terrorists, who have latched onto the truer meaning of the Koran, have such disdain for the lives of non-Muslims.
You wrote:
"Marriage Ties
(3) "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses."
All these analogies are just plain stupid. Deep down you know these are stupid comparisons. Unlike Moses, Muhammed married a 9 or 10 year old and had other wives.
You wrote:
"THIRDLY, according to You - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?" He answered meekly: "Y-e-s." I concluded: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"
"He answered meekly," how rediculous. Well, in the case of Muhammed who can really know. I can't tell who has gone where, but some might argue that Muhammed went to hell, and would be more like Jesus than Moses following your odd ball comparisons.
Reply:Ok.
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Reply:The Bible is the only Book that will show you how to get to heaven
Reply:He's completely mad. And you're even madder for buying into it.
Reply:goodness-how on earth did you manage to put some much text into this question?
Let me start by saying good morning to you.......
How a person interprets a text is often different to the next person.
I have 2 friends who are studying the Bible at present and they often get into debates on how they have interpreted something.
I personally do not feel the Bible was referring to the prophet of MUHAMMED, but was actually referring to Christ.
This sort of text could be looked upon of religious incitement and may offend many people.
Have a good day my friend and be at peace with yourself, remember whatever religion a person believes in is their own personal choice. We all have to share this world, wouldn't it be easier if we each accepted other people live and believe differently from one another, and that only those who want to learn should be preached upon.
Reply:If you could summarise that, people would be more likely to read it. I haven't read it because it's very long. I understand that what you're saying seems very important, but that's why you need to make it shorter because then people are more likely to listen to you.
Reply:I will pose this answer to the originator and as if to the one who posted it..undersanding that the one who postd this is not the one who originated this debate and writings ..
Its enough that this one assumes to stand behind this... unfortunatly, and perhaps believe's this artical is infallable.
First ..... Do you think that your education justifies your argument? It actually contradicts your presentation of your own arguments.
Perhaps you will see that.
Or perhaps all you will see and glory in, is HOW well you showed off your education to justify your motive, which was to propagate Muhammad and Islam?
Your arguments are not only empty but scatter simple and easy understanding concerning the flow of flowing prophetic and written testament of Yeshua (Jesus) and biblical scriptures (YES) even taking original manuscript into account ..
I apologize for many Christians who also argue emptily by trying to show off their education and head knowledge of the scriptures. BUT even though these sort claim he is the sent son of God, they do not truly know or understand Him.
I wont compete by trying to out match someone's education where unfortunate MANY feel they must and have to be right because of how HARD they have studied BOOKS and presented their education.
Ecclesiastic 12:12-14 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
No BUT I will show you how you shut yourself down along with your own arguments ....
YOU SAID: If this is what you have to do with a 'thousand' prophecies to justify your claim with regards to the genuineness of Jesus, why should we not adopt the very same system for Muhammad?"1
The dominee agreed that it was a fair proposition , a reasonable way of dealing with the problem.
Ok .... so do I ...
But by your own presented words, your "two and two" do not add up for Muhammad ...or your own arguments!
With the many things that disqualify your argument Lets just stick TO YOUR OWN WORDS!!!
First ..
YOU SAID (presented);
I replied: "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL "Jews" as well as "Prophets..End quote..
ACCORDING TO YOU Then if these could refer to any of the candidates, ""according to your own argument""" YOU would be assuming and guessing also ...
SO why /hypocritically USE your own exposing points ..by your own admission and "your own argument" doesnt it show that your presentation is as glib as those who contend for Jesus ""according to your own arguments"?
YOU SAID ....
Is there a single Prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be JESUS, and that his mother's name will be MARY, that his supposed father will be JOSEPH THE CARPENTER; that he will be born in the reign of HEROD THE KING, etc. etc.? No! There are no such details! Then how can you conclude that those 'thousand' Prophecies refer to Jesus (Peace be upon him)?" ..end quote
YOU also referred to the name Muhammad being mentioned once ..BUT the word "savior" emanuel and "I AM" are mentioned MANY times ..
The name Jesus in its actual translation means "SAVIOR"..
Now on to how fallible these arguments really are ....
YOU SAID:
We Muslims have accepted the de facto Jesus on the authority of Muhammad alone, and there are in the world today no less than 900,000,0001 followers of Muhammad who love, respect and revere this great Messenger of God -Jesus Christ- without having the Christians to convince them by means of their Biblical dialectics..end quote
So you and 900,000.0001 Muslims admit that at least he is a prophet ... and If you admit he is then you believe that his words are true and that they have and will come to pass!
So by your own bible quoting
LET US LOOK AND READ WHAT YOU AT LEAST REFER TO AS VALID CONCERNING A PROPHET..
Deuteronomy 18:18-22
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him ...
NOW AGAIN YOU SAID AND I QUOTE!
YOU SAID:
Surely this man Muhammad who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of Believers who, on his authority, believe in:
(1) the miraculous birth of Jesus,
(2) that Jesus is the Messiah,1
(3) that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission.
SO if Jesus was not only confirmed by God as you say and HIS words and words that came to pass accompanied by signs and wonders (not including the fact that you just said Muhammad just confessed Jesus as the messiah)
WHY IS IT THEN THAT YOU Or those who believe "YOUR ARGUMENTS" DON'T BELIEVE ""ALL"" THAT HE SAYS?
Not just Jesus but John the Baptist and Mary who YOU AND 900,000.0001 other Muhammad believers ALSO CONFIRMED in your argument as being true prophets!
First lets go to just a few of the words of Jesus ...then Mary and John the Baptist ..
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 4:25-26 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
John 1:29-34
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
Mathew 1:20-24
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
NOW........
If it is these are confirmed as at least true prophets, how is it YOU do not obey and believe what they say ..HOW is it you don't fear him as YOU and Deuteronomy says?
YOU see Either Jesus, Mary John and Moses are liar's or They are truthfull and bare witness THAT the testimonies of events, Jesus and events through him ARE VALAD and TRUE .. or YOU YOURSELVES must confess that you are not following what you PREACH and believe ...
EVEN better concerning your own WORDS ...
YOU SAID: Surely this man Muhammad who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of Believers who, on his authority, believe in:
(1) the miraculous birth of Jesus,
(2) that Jesus is the Messiah,1
(3) that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission. end quote.
THAT Jesus is the Messiah ...
So AGAIN, dont you think that you are accountable to believe all Jesus Says ...Not to mention Mary and john the baptist ..???
What it sounds like is that you are very confused and bring much reproach upon your doctrines and Muhammed by your
unsound and balanced aruments ...
If I were you I would be more cautious ..there are people who actualy listen and reason RIGHT!
Reply:have a cry
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see how short that was???
Reply:...having read "ALL" of this I will you answer you very very simply...The promise of God (YHVH) was given to Abraham and the children of the Hebrew Nations, not Ishmael and Hagar (the slave) who abandon the faith and went out on their own... The false-prophet, Mohammad, was incapable of reading or writing... his "rants" were written by "others" who misunderstood them... The work of God(YHVH) on earth was completed on the Cross by Yeshua when He clearly stated "It is finished"...
Reply:I read some of it, there is a lot there.
JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like MOSES: Deut.18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" - Like MOSES!
Moses delivered the children of Israel out of slavery.
Jesus delivered the Jews out of bondage from Satan.
Not all believed in Him.
Matthew 1 (New King James Version)
And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.”
22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: 23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,”[d] which is translated, “God with us.”
So He was like Moses, He was a deliverer.
John 14:11
Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
He did signs, and His followers are still doing them today.
Luke 4:40
[ Many Healed After Sabbath Sunset ] When the sun was setting, all those who had any that were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and He laid His hands on every one of them and healed them.
God confirms His word with signs and wonders. Healing is one of them.
Reply:So what exactly is your question?
Reply:The Great 7 Year Tribulations
Now why would God implement the Great Tribulations?
• Because when he says he is going to do something (i.e. His prophecies) he is going to do just that. God never lies and always remembers his covenants.
• The world must end.
• To shatter man’s arrogance and sense of security as a ploy to get their attention.
• To end all evil and to punish the wicked
• To inaugurate his new kingdom of righteousness!
• Of course there are other reason and me being human can never know the infinite wisdom of the Sovereign Lord
Of course, an atheist and God haters can never understand God to a degree since they only focus on God’s judgments when it is clear that there is also going to be mercy during these harsh periods we call the Great tribulations.
When will the rapture occur? Nobody knows but God alone, not even his angels know! That is precisely why we all must have Jesus in our hearts as it is written:
Romans 10
8But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,"[d] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."[e] 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."[f]
If you do not accept Jesus (know this we do not know the hour of the rapture and that is to say if it happens in our generation!) then you unfortunately will have to experience a period of most egregious suffering and woes. This verse is but a mere appetizer of how painful the Great 7 year Tribulations shall be:
Jeremiah 30
4 These are the words the LORD spoke concerning Israel and Judah: 5 "This is what the LORD says:
" 'Cries of fear are heard—
terror, not peace.
6 Ask and see:
Can a man bear children?
Then why do I see every strong man
with his hands on his stomach like a woman in labor,
every face turned deathly pale?
7 How awful that day will be!
None will be like it.
It will be a time of trouble for Jacob,
but he will be saved out of it
If you read the above graphic verse, you shall surely know that no words can describe the excruciating pain the Great Tribulations shall be, that even men will be writhing in agony as if they are in labor like women.
The Rapture of the Christians and the Crowns and Rewards:
First the Rapture shall occur which means that the true followers of Jesus shall meet in heaven too receive their crowns for their Christian services.
1 Corinthians 15
51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."[g]
55"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?"[h] 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 4
13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.
These Crowns are not what saves someone but after a Christian is saved by believing in Jesus as said in Romans 10:9 they are giving treasures and rewards for their selfless deeds they did on earth (please note and I shall stress, these works rewards that is are not what saves a person but are “icing-on-the-cake” rewards and incentives after being saved via Jesus). Accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior is an unconditional covenant forge by God and his sovereign son Jesus and cannot be lost. However your works, treasures, and rewards that you do can either proliferate or be sabotaged and compromised by a lazy Christian who fells him or herself to sins of the flesh. These are following things that can pass through the fire because of a Christian’s GENUINE selfless deeds:
• The base foundation is Jesus the Christ is imperative
• Gold on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)
• Silver on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)
• Costly precious stones on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)
These are the are the following things that shall be incinerated by the fire by a Christian’s lazy selfish deeds, of the flesh and doing good deeds based on arrogance and trying to look good to his fellow man and NOT God:
• Wood
• Hay
• Straw
When these elements are passed through the fire whatever is left the saved person gets that reward. Rewards can be numerous or very few depending on how the saved Christian served God and his brethren selflessly. However even with the loss of rewards he or she is still saved as it is written:
1 Corinthians 3
15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
What that verse above means is similar to the contemporary Cliché:
“He made it by the skin of his teeth!”
Even though a Christian may lose some of his rewards and treasures he or she is still saved!!
Now let us identify the crowns, which are the following:
• Crown of life- AKA the martyrs crown those who died for bearing testimony of Jesus receive this crown
• Incorruptible crown-This is rewarded to Christians that kept their bodies pure and rejected the insatiable appetites of the flesh (i.e. immoral sex, drinking, drugs (sorcery), etc.)
• Crown of righteousness-this is giving to those who keep the faith and anxiously await Jesus return
• Crown of rejoicing*-Those who win peoples souls to Jesus. Not by Guilt, or you-will-go-to-hell but by love and obedience and by living by example not lip service hypocrisy
• Crown of joy*-AKA the Shepherds crown, those who are at full maturity. Those are great teachers like a pastor who uses his spiritual gifts to help to save the unsaved and lost.
*-These are the highest ranking of all the crowns.
The Antichrist:
Then Antichrist shall make his debut. The other names of the Antichrist are the following:
• Beast of the sea
• The abomination that makes desolate
• The king that will do as he pleases
• Tiny horn with eyes of a man that boasts to the God
• The man of lawlessness
• Son of perdition
A forewarning: ANY GUESSESS ON WHO THE ANTICHRIST IS; IS ONLY A FOOLS GAME!!! After the rapture the antichrist shall reveal himself and only the newly converts of Jesus after the rapture that is, shall decipher the name of the beast which is 666. SO IN ESSENCE ANY 666 GUESSING GAMES RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE RAPTURE IS ALSO A FOOLS GAME!!! The Antichrist will be a powerful world leader well versed in all arts. The antichrist myriads of talents to name a few are the following:
• Oratorical genius (Great speaking ability that entrances the human ears i.e. Hitler)
• Intellectual Genius
• Commercial Genius
• Military Genius
• Administrative genius
• Religious genius
• Powers of Satan
Israel’s Folly:
The Great 7 year tribulation does not happen when the rapture happens as most are commonly mistaken but only when the Antichrist forges a 7-year peace treaty so that all nations even the Arabs would recognize them as a sovereign state. As such, Israel shall pay dearly for seeking security with the grave Isaiah 28:14-15.
Israel’s Terms under the Antichrist’s Covenant:
Once Israel makes this foolish covenant with the antichrist, the terms of the deal are the following:
• Israel is given peace (False peace)
• The Jerusalem Temple is now under Israeli sovereignty on the Dome on the rock
• They are allowed to rebuild Solomon’s Temple long at last
• Israel must tear down their walls that borders their country
The Seven Seals of the Scroll:
Once Israel puts their trust into the Antichrist and not GOD, the GREAT TRIBULATIONS NOW COMMENCE. The seven seal of the scroll could not be opened by anyone except Jesus:
• 1st Seal-The antichrist; notice his bow but not an arrow; he will win the world power through peace and diplomacy.
• 2nd Seal-A great war shall break out. Some speculate this is a symbol of the Antichrist’s other true persona of pure evil and a man who has a penchant for a bloodbath.
• 3rd Seal-Famine as a result of war; a family will barely have the money to feed themselves so they must resort in buying cheap innutritious food to feed everyone thus the mention of barley. Wheat in those days is but a luxury few can afford. The oil and wine are not touch because they are the rich and the wealthy and of course they are barely affected.
• 4th Seal-Death is a result of all of this and it shall kill over ¼ of the populous!!
• 5th Seal-Martyrs cry to the Sovereign Lord for Justice; they beg God to avenge their unjust deaths because they bear true to the testimonies of Jesus. For that they were beheaded. God says for them to be patient and they were all given a white robe for there shall be more Christians than they themselves that shall be slaughtered. God shall avenge the martyrs so saith Hebrews 10:30.
• 6th Seal-Great Earthquake ensues; celestial upheaval. See Joel 2: 28-32
And all of the inhabitants of the earth shall say:
Revelation 6
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"
• 7th Seal-Silence for a half an hour then an angel takes a golden censer filled with incense and hurls it to earth and thunder, lightening, and an earthquake ensue.
The Dispatching of the 144,000 Jewish Evangelicals:
God in his infinite mercy and grace (even in a time of his wrath) shall dispatch the following:
• Judah 12,000
• Reuben 12,000
• Gad 12,000
• Asher 12,000
• Naphtali 12,000
• Manasseh 12,000
• Simeon 12,000
• Levi 12,000,
• Issachar 12,000
• Zebulun 12,000
• Joseph 12,000
• Benjamin 12,000
144,000 for the 12 tribes of Israel shall be given the SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD which insured the servants of God protection for the plagues. The Seal is branded on their foreheads by an angel.
The Dispatching of the Two Witnesses:
These will be invulnerable men who will wear sackcloth and prophecy for 1,260 day (3 ½ years). Some believe it will be Moses and Elijah since both of their powers are very similar to the powers of the two witnesses. We know one of the witnesses shall be Elijah as written in:
Malachi 4
5 "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse."
Their powers are the following:
• Power to shut the sky, thus inhibit rain from coming
• Power to turn waters into blood
• Can execute as many plagues and torment as often as they wish
• Breathe fire from their mouths to anyone who want to harm them; that is the way they must die
Many people will be saved during the GREAT TRIBULATIONS by the combined testimonies and effort of both the two witnesses and the 144,000 Jewish Evangelicals:
Revelation 7
9After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb." 11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:
"Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!"
13Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?"
14I answered, "Sir, you know."
And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15Therefore,
"they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
16Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat upon them,
nor any scorching heat.
17For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
he will lead them to springs of living water.
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
The Seven Trumpets of Judgment:
• 1st Trumpet-Hail and fire mixed with blood is hurled to earth. 1/3 of the earth and trees were burned up but all of the green grass was burned up
• 2nd Trumpet-A huge mountain all ablaze (a meteor perhaps) was thrown into the sea as a result 1/3 of the sea was turned into blood, 1/3 creatures of the sea perished, and 1/3 of the ships were destroyed
• 3rd Trumpet –Great torching star WORMWOOD (comet perhaps); shall fall into 1/3 of the rivers and spring and as a result people shall die via the bitter tasting water from WORMWOOD (perhaps poisonous alkaloid from the star)
• 4th Trumpet-Celestial upheaval; 1/3 of the sun, moon, and stars were darkened; 1/3 of the day was without light and also 1/3 of the night
13As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: "Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!"
• 5th Trumpet –A star (Satan or demon) falls from the sky as a key to the shaft of the abyss. Out comes demonic locust that are commanded not to harm the tree or vegetation but those without the SEAL OF GOD to sting them and torment them (not kill them) for 5 months. Many will try to commit suicide but fail in their attempts for death eludes them. The demonic locusts have a leader call Abbadon in Hebrew or Apollyon in Greek which means: Destroyer
12The first woe is past; two other woes are yet to come.
• 6th Trumpet -4 angels released from the Euphrates River to kill 1/3 of mankind. They shall have two hundred million troops to do the slaughtering of the 1/3 of mankind. But do people repent and come to Jesus after all these horrors? No, they are so stubborn they rather curse God and suffer in agony than to humble themselves before the Sovereign Lord!
20The rest of mankind that were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. 21Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts.
• 7th Trumpet – 15The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:
"The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ,
and he will reign for ever and ever." 16And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17saying:
"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
and have begun to reign.
18The nations were angry; and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your saints and those who reverence your name,
both small and great—
and for destroying those who destroy the earth." 19Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.
The Prophecy against Gog; Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39:
Rogue nations that harbor malice and black hearted hatred towards Israel’s right to exist shall try once and for all to obliterate Israel as is written:
Psalm 83
4 "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation,
that the name of Israel be remembered no more."
They will attack Israel for numerous reasons besides their hatred towards them:
• They want to rebel against the sovereignty of world leader the Antichrist
• They want to strike wealth and riches
• Control over the oil and Israel is a great strategic area of control
• Rebellion against God
What are the nations that will do such a cowardly sneak attack on Israel when Israel’s defenses are nonexistent (Do notice SYRIA is not the nations that will join because they were probably destroyed by a battle between Israel and was destroyed even though Israel was hurt in the process before the rapture in accordance to the PROPHECY AGAINST DOMASCUS which can be found in Isaiah 17:1 %26amp; Amos 1:3-5)? These are the following nations that will try their vain attempt to “wipe Israel of the map”:
• Rosh-Russia people north of the Black Sea adjacent to the Caspian Sea (God will actually drag and force Russia to attack Israel with a hook in his jaw and drag him down like a jackass to the mountains of Israel)
• Magog-Areas of Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and possibly Afghanistan
• Meshech-Portions of Turkey
• Tubal- Portions of Turkey
• Cush-Ethiopia, Sudan, South of the Nile River
• Put-West of Egypt northern Africa Libya
• Gomer- Portions of Turkey
• Beth-togarmah- Portions of Turkey
(Notice almost all the Attackers of Israel is mostly Muslim Islamic) It would be Saudi Arabia, Great Britain, Lebanon, and the United states who will make a lame protest in wanting to know their intentions and motives in this attack:
13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her strong lions will say to you, "Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?" '
It will be God who will save his people Israel and he will be furious and his hot anger and wrath will be aroused. He will use Russia and her Islamic allies to attack Israel to demonstrate his power and might and to make himself known throughout the nations through Russia and her Islamic allies’ destruction by executing devastating natural catastrophe that even the creatures of the earth, sea and air will know it is God behind these disasters. God shall do the following to Russia and her Islamic allies:
• Great earthquake in the land of Israel
• Mountains, cliffs and every wall overturned
• Largest most humiliating friendly fire ever seen done to Russia and her Islamic allies
• Plagues and bloodshed
• Torrent rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on Russia and her Islamic allies
• God will strike the weapons out of the hands of Russia and her Islamic allies and sabotage their battle
After that the creature of the air and land will devour the flesh of Russia and her Islamic allies and for seven months the house of Israel shall bury the carcasses of Russia and her Islamic allies and the gravesite shall be called Valley of Hamon Gog which means Hordes of Gog. Israel will then use and burn as fuel the weapons of Russia and her Islamic allies for 7 years. Now burning weapons is possible since Russia is manufacturing a substance called LIGNOSTONE which is compressed laminated wood.
Satan Expelled from Heaven:
During all this time in heaven and towards the end of the first half of the 7 year tribulation (1,260 days) Satan has been making vain attempts to invalidate the saved raptured Christians in heaven (like hearing annoying comments from the peanut gallery). God having enough of hearing Satan’s unceasing dribble expels and hurls Satan back to Earth never to enter heaven again as if you read the book of Job. Satan infuriated goes and commences a holocaust on mammoth proportions on the Jews and Christians and persecutes those who obey God’s sovereign commandments. Now on Earth Good shall be evil and evil shall be good.
The Two Witnesses Assassinated and Resurrected:
The end of the 3 ½ years midpoint of the 7 year tribulations the invulnerability of the two witnesses shall be lifted and the Antichrist shall slay them both. For 3 ½ days their bodies lay. The inhabitants of the Earth see the death of the two witnesses and are so evil they refuse to bury their bodies and gloat over their death and even give gifts to each other!! At the end of the 3 ½ days a voice from heavens says, “Come”, and the two witnesses come to life, the inhabitants of the Earth are amazed and horrified by this and the two witnesses ascend into heaven via a cloud while their enemies looked on below. A great earthquake at that same hour shall ensue and 1/10 of the city is destroyed and 7,000 people are killed, those who survived terrified and gave glory to God in heaven, probably thanking God for sparing their lives.
The Antichrist Show his True Form:
In the midpoint of the Great Tribulation the Antichrist is no longer “Mr. nice guy” anymore and bare out his fangs as totalitarian brutal despot the world has never seen. All the combined despot and brutal dictators of the past such as Hitler or Joseph Stalin are puny mustard seeds compared to the Antichrist.
The Antichrist breaks the treaty with Israel and Defiles the Temple:
The Antichrist shall break his treaty with Israel and put a stop to all sacrifices and offering and has the audacious hubris to even enter the HOLIES OF HOLIES and sit on the throne of the Temple and declare himself “god” and demand worship!!
Some of the Jews Flee to Petra/Bozrah from the Antichrist’s Genocidal Persecution:
Now for those who do not understand the imagery the woman is Israel NOT Mary!! The moon and sun the woman (Israel) is clothed with and 12 stars over her head is an allusion to Joseph’s dream in Genesis 37:9. The moon and sun are Jacob and Rachel the forbearers of Israel and the 12 stars are the 12 Tribes of Israel. The Israelites heeding the warning of the 144,000 Jewish evangelicals and the two witnesses will flee to the desert of Petra/Bozrah that is located in southern Jordan. There Israel shall be supernaturally nourished and protected by God.
Enter the False Prophet:
The Antichrist shall have a close ally and confidant called the False Prophet (Beast of the Earth). He will enforce the worshiping of the Antichrist (Beast of the Sea) by forcing everyone to accept the MARK OF THE BEAST which is 666. Those who do not have the MARK OF THE BEAST cannot buy nor sell pretty much putting people in hostage to have to worship him otherwise you die of starvation. Those who blatantly refuse the MARK OF THE BEAST are brutally beheaded!! So in essence this will divided the pseudo-Christians from the real Christians, whether they are cowards to accept the MARK OF THE BEAST to save their skin or are loyal and obedient to God and refuse the MARK OF THE BEAST and thusly are beheaded thus earning themselves the Crown of life. Know this: anyone who receives the MARK OF THE BEAST is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN so do not accept it!!!
The Transfer of all Commerce to Babylon:
The Antichrist will transfer all commerce and the economy to the newly rebuilt Babylon which is south of modern day Bagdad, Iraq as a hubristic blatant rebellion against God and to segregate themselves from God.
The Dispatching of the 3 Angels to Proclaim the Everlasting Gospel:
God in his infinite mercy and grace (praise him the Sovereign Lord 7 folds!) shall do something he has never done in Biblical history: he will dispatch 3 powerful angels in the guise of humans to preach the everlasting gospel to every nation, tribe, language and people:
• 1st Angel- "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water."
• 2nd Angel-"Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries."
• 3rd Angel- "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."
13Then I heard a voice from heaven say, "Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on."
"Yes," says the Spirit, "they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them."
The Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath:
When the Antichrist sit on the throne and has the audacious hubris to even enter the HOLIES OF HOLIES and sit on the throne of the Temple and declare himself “god” and demand worship, the wrath and hot anger of God shall reach his pinnacle and he will execute judgments on the Earth and Babylon the Great for their grievous transgression. The Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath will ONLY affect those people who received the MARK OF THE BEAST and are the following:
• 1st Bowl-Ugly sores and festering boils
• 2nd Bowl-The Sea is turned into blood and the creatures of the sea die as a result.
• 3rd Bowl-Rivers and springs are turned into blood.
5Then I heard the angel in charge of the waters say:
"You are just in these judgments,
you who are and who were, the Holy One,
because you have so judged;
6for they have shed the blood of your saints and prophets,
and you have given them blood to drink as they deserve."
7And I heard the altar respond:
"Yes, Lord God Almighty,
true and just are your judgments."
This means that the martyrs (The fifth Seal of the Scroll) plea to God for vengeance for their deaths has been avenged! The wicked inhabitants got what was just and deserved for their shedding the blood of the innocent Christians who bore the testimony of Jesus. God in a way says you like blood, shedding blood of the innocent? Good! Now drink it you savage murderers!
• 4th Bowl-Scorching sun, not only the wicked inhabitants of the Earth grievously dehydrated but are felled with heat stroke. But do they repent, NO!
9They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.
• 5th Bowl-The Antichrist throne, Kingdom of Babylon is plunged into darkness. The wicked inhabitants of the Earth gnaw their tongues in agony. However, do they repent, NO!
11and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.
• 6th Bowl-The Euphrates River is dried up preparing the way of the king of the East (China perhaps)
*16Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.*
• 7th Bowl-The destruction of BABYLON never to rise again!! However, do they repent, NO!
17The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, "It is done!" 18Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.
The land of Israel and Jerusalem under Siege:
As written in the book of Zachariah:
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
The Antichrist will convince everyone that all these trouble are caused by the “Jewish problem”. And the only way to end the “Jewish problem” is to destroy and killed them all.
The Regeneration of the Jews:
The Jews in Petra/ Bozrah heeding the testimony of the two witnesses and the 144,000 Jewish Evangelicals finally understand that all these woes are happening because they transgressed upon the Sovereign Lord and his son Jesus. The Jewish leaders will command everyone to pray for Jesus to come and help them. Thus fulfilling this prophecy:
Ezekiel 11
19 I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. 20 Then they will follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. They will be my people, and I will be their God.
You see all this is happening because God wants to use to horror of GREAT TRIBULATIONS to SOFTEN the HARDEN HEARTS of the Jews. So in essence there shall be a small remnant of Jews saved because they have finally acknowledged their nation sin: THE REJECTION OF JESUS THE CHRIST!!!!
The Second Coming of Jesus and the Destruction of the Antichrist and his Forces:
Hearing the prayers of the Jews God dispatches his son Jesus to rescue his people O’ Israel. He lands his feet on Mount of Olives:
Zachariah14
3
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. 5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake [a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
Jesus comes in hot anger and wrath to slay the wicked with the word, the breath of God:
Isaiah 11
4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Isaiah 63
1 Who is this coming from Edom,
from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor,
striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
"It is I, speaking in righteousness,
mighty to save."
2 Why are your garments red,
like those of one treading the winepress?
3 "I have trodden the winepress alone;
from the nations no one was with me.
I trampled them in my anger
and trod them down in my wrath;
their blood spattered my garments,
and I stained all my clothing.
4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart,
and the year of my redemption has come.
5 I looked, but there was no one to help,
I was appalled that no one gave support;
so my own arm worked salvation for me,
and my own wrath sustained me.
6 I trampled the nations in my anger;
in my wrath I made them drunk
and poured their blood on the ground."
Revelation 19
11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
17And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."
19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
Jesus will destroy all Nations that Attack Israel and Jerusalem:
Zechariah 12
1 This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares: 2 "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. 3 On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. 4 On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the LORD. "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations. 5 Then the leaders of Judah will say in their hearts, 'The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the LORD Almighty is their God.'
6 "On that day I will make the leaders of Judah like a firepot in a woodpile, like a flaming torch among sheaves. They will consume right and left all the surrounding peoples, but Jerusalem will remain intact in her place.
7 "The LORD will save the dwellings of Judah first, so that the honor of the house of David and of Jerusalem's inhabitants may not be greater than that of Judah. 8 On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them. 9 On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.
Zechariah 14
12 This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. 13 On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing. 15 A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
Jesus will Forgive Israel for their rejection of him:
The small remnant will weep because they were solely responsible for his death and rejection:
Zechariah 12
10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit [a] of grace and supplication. They will look on [b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be great, like the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives.
Jesus of course forgives them:
Romans 11
26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
"The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins."[g]
The Antichrist and the False Prophet are captured and thrown in the lake of fire tormented day and night forever and ever.
The Millennium Years under Jesus’ Godly Government:
An angel comes down and imprisons Satan in the bottomless pit. Only the ones who are saved via faith in Jesus can enter the 1,000 years whether it would be Jew or Gentile (non-Jew) or raptured Gentile. The following are the benefits in living in the 1,000:
• 1,000 years of peace
• Healthy young strong bodies that are immune to diseases (the Adamic curse is partially lifted)
• All animals are tamed and no predatory animals or ones with venom, thus all are vegetarian
Isaiah 11
6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling [a] together;
and a little child will lead them.
7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper's nest.
9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
• Must celebrate the FEAST OF THE TABERNACLES OTHERWISE THAT COUNTRY WILL NOT GET RAIN!!!
• Nature is transformed into its glory like it was before Adam and Eve screwed it up!
• Growing with the Knowledge of God:
Jeremiah 31
33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time," declares the LORD.
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the LORD.
"For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."
Sad to say even under these utopia conditions people will still rebel since they have 100 years to accept Jesus otherwise they are accursed. It would be during the generation born into the 1,000 years that will rebel. At the end of the 1,000 years Satan is release from his prison and tempts the nation those mostly of the younger generation born into the 1,000 years to try to band together to destroy Jerusalem. But in vain for God unleashes fire from the heaven to consume them all!!
The Great White Throne:
Jesus will be the judge in this and anyone who stand before the GREAT WHITE THRONE is NOT SAVED!!! They are not written in the book of life and the only way a person can be written in the book of life is to freely accept Jesus. Those who are not saved are judged according to their works. A person who has rejected Jesus as their savior must be judged by the Mosaic Law and other various laws and that shall be the following:
• Rejecting the scriptures-There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. John 12:48
• Perverted and wicked secret thoughts-For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:14
• Idle words (i.e. dirty jokes) - But I tell you that men will have to give account on the Day of Judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." Matthew 12:36-37
• Slandering the Lord with hard speeches-Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him." Jude 1:14-15
• "Righteous" acts of an Atheist-An unbeliever's "good" deeds are filthy in the sight of the God. Now what worse word than filthy can you think of for the wicked deeds of an Atheist? For it is written:
Isaiah 64
6 All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
• Everyone will confess Jesus is Lord (even Satan)-You got it, even the ones who scoffer at God’s commandment and hated Jesus will genuflect with reverence and proclaim Jesus is Lord!! Everyone even Satan and his demon hordes:
Romans 14
For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.
Philippians 2
9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
• The Mosaic Law (10 Commandments)
Now when an unsaved are there before Christ it is useless to even utter the following:
• You did not give me enough proof of your existence…..God-since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. Romans1:19-20
• The Christians were a bunch of hypocrites so thus it tarnished the creditability of Christianity-not going to fly by God. It is like they say Christians are not perfect-far from it-just forgiven!
• Can you give me a second chance?-No you had your chance will you were alive!
• I knew about you God I read the scriptures-Knowing God is does not save you in fact Satan and his demon hordes know of Jesus and God, for it is written:
In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an evil spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice, "Ha! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!" "Be quiet!" Jesus said sternly. "Come out of him!" Then the demon threw the man down before them all and came out without injuring him. Luke 4:33-35
Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ. Luke 4:41
Having faith in God and obeying his commandments and accepting God’s free gift of salvation that is how you get saved not by trying to be a Bible bookworm, you see the Pharisees were well versed in scriptures (Just like Satan) but they had too much pride, and were spiritually blind to see Jesus as the Messiah and did not exhibit love and faith.
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
Those who are not saved will be thrown into the lake of fire tormented forever!!!
Revelation 20
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
The New Heaven and New earth:
The ones who are saved written in the book of life that is, are to partake the new heaven and new Earth:
Revelation 21
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb." 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia[a]in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits[b] thick,[c] by man's measurement, which the angel was using. 18The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[d] 21The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.
22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. 25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it. 27Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 22
1Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. 6The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."
Freewill to accept Jesus as your savior or not:
Revelation 22
11Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."
17The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
The free gift of the water of Life is Jesus the Christ but one must come to him willingly and freely and voluntarily. God did not want robots but those who wish to love the Lord by coming to him. It is freewill to do good or ill….what is your choice?
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