If Jesus was all powerfull why would He ask God why God had forsaken Him ?

Couldn't he just wish himself off the cross? Wouldn't He not even have to ask God since He would already know because He was God? Doesn't this show that Jesus was a) not all powerfull b) not all knowing and c) not His dad?-- next time you decide to write a compilation of fairy tales try using an editor to proofread for inconsistencies and self-contradictions.

If Jesus was all powerfull why would He ask God why God had forsaken Him ?
As you see, he was not that powerful. He was not God, and he was forced to die on the cross against his own will. And last but not least, he was not forced by God but by the Romans.
Reply:I agree with Lion Of Judah On This one.





His seems the most likely and correct answer as I can see.





http://www.carm.org/questions/why_forsak...
Reply:Well if you had read the entire story of Jesus then you would know that before Jesus was arrested he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane and he said- Father if there is anyway take this cup from me....then he realized there was no other way. Jesus knew that he had to die on the cross and that there was no other way. Jesus was all powerful- he performed numerous miracles and the fact that he stayed on that cross speaks loudly for how powerful and selfless he was. Jesus knew what had happen and Jesus wasn't God neccesarily- in previous scripture it said- Jesus being in the very likeness God knew that equality with God wasn't something to be grasped. There are a lot of theories on why Jesus cried out "my God, my God why have you foresaken me?" I believe it is because that is when he took on the sins of the world and was seperated from God.


The Bible isn't a fairy tale and there aren't inconsistencies and self-contradictions in it. Just because you don't like what it says doesn't mean it isn't true.
Reply:He was only the messenger of the almighty and not the almighty.
Reply:Because he is the son of GOD!


That is just proof that he is not God, he is the son of God! He wouldn't be calling himself!
Reply:He was quoting Psalm 22. It was a heartfelt expression of pain mixed with a biblical understanding that He was, in fact, not forsaken. The people standing there would have understood His reference, and today, 2000 years past the fact, we are still talking about it and going back to take a look at Psalm 22.
Reply:That was on behalf of everyone who would ever feel that way plus he was and is as much God as man.
Reply:Jesus was The Holy Spirit in mortal form. The Spirit is transient and Omnipresent and constantly moves about the world. I would deduce God simultaneously was undergoing similar situation or became temporarily distracted.





As a loved child momentarily out of sight, considered amongst loved ones and in safe hands. At times when the cold evil wind blows and to dull and harden the senses of humanity, many horrors are committed in what seems the blink of an eye.





Peace Be Upon You All.





Theory.
Reply:Many have wondered that, Jesus even said that he could call legions of angels to save him...





But He was not interested in saving his self...
Reply:First of all had Yahshua not laid down His life....you would have to face your own death...He died in your place. The chastisement of men was upon Him....God (Yahweh) did not turn from His son...He turned from the SIN that He bared on the cross...Until you experience the true forgiveness of The Christ, don't be so quick to judge....You aren't wise enough to disprove the Holy Scriptures.
Reply:faith are simple, all prophets [including Jesus] ask their peoples to worship God
Reply:Jesus was fighting His earthly nature, and God did have to turn His back on Jesus while Jesus was taking the world's sin upon Himself. Jesus did have the power to command the angels to take Him down, Jesus even confirmed that claim.





More so, those words are the Beginning of Psalm 22. When you read Psalm 22, it makes a little more sense as to what's going on in Jesus.





Psalm 22:


1MY GOD, my God, why have You forsaken me? Why are You so far from helping me, and from the words of my groaning?


2O my God, I cry in the daytime, but You answer not; and by night I am not silent or find no rest.


3But You are holy, O You Who dwell in [the holy place where] the praises of Israel [are offered].


4Our fathers trusted in You; they trusted (leaned on, relied on You, and were confident) and You delivered them.


5They cried to You and were delivered; they trusted in, leaned on, and confidently relied on You, and were not ashamed or confounded or disappointed.


6But I am a worm, and no man; I am the scorn of men, and despised by the people.


7All who see me laugh at me and mock me; they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,


8He trusted and rolled himself on the Lord, that He would deliver him. Let Him deliver him, seeing that He delights in him!


9Yet You are He Who took me out of the womb; You made me hope and trust when I was on my mother's breasts.


10I was cast upon You from my very birth; from my mother's womb You have been my God.


11Be not far from me, for trouble is near and there is none to help.


12Many [foes like] bulls have surrounded me; strong bulls of Bashan have hedged me in.


13Against me they opened their mouths wide, like a ravening and roaring lion.


14I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart is like wax; it is softened [with anguish] and melted down within me.


15My strength is dried up like a fragment of clay pottery; [with thirst] my tongue cleaves to my jaws; and You have brought me into the dust of death.


16For [like a pack of] dogs they have encompassed me; a company of evildoers has encircled me, they pierced my hands and my feet.


17I can count all my bones; [the evildoers] gaze at me.


18They part my clothing among them and cast lots for my raiment (a long, shirtlike garment, a seamless undertunic).


19But be not far from me, O Lord; O my Help, hasten to aid me!


20Deliver my life from the sword, my dear life [my only one] from the power of the dog [the agent of execution].


21Save me from the lion's mouth; for You have answered me [kindly] from the horns of the wild oxen.


22I will declare Your name to my brethren; in the midst of the congregation will I praise You.


23You who fear (revere and worship) the Lord, praise Him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify Him. Fear (revere and worship) Him, all you offspring of Israel.


24For He has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither has He hidden His face from him, but when he cried to Him, He heard.


25My praise shall be of You in the great congregation. I will pay to Him my vows [made in the time of trouble] before them who fear (revere and worship) Him.


26The poor and afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; they shall praise the Lord--they who [diligently] seek for, inquire of and for Him, and require Him [as their greatest need]. May your hearts be quickened now and forever!


27All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall bow down and worship before You,


28For the kingship and the kingdom are the Lord's, and He is the ruler over the nations.


29All the mighty ones upon earth shall eat [in thanksgiving] and worship; all they that go down to the dust shall bow before Him, even he who cannot keep himself alive.


30Posterity shall serve Him; they shall tell of the Lord to the next generation.


31They shall come and shall declare His righteousness to a people yet to be born--that He has done it [that it is finished]!
Reply:Because he was just a man who thought otherwise.
Reply:a way to pull heart strings.
Reply:Why did Jesus cry out,


"My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?"





In Matthew 27:45-46, it says, "Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" If Jesus is God, why would He say this?


First of all, Jesus quoted Psalm 22:1 which begins with, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?". Jesus quoted this Psalm in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. Consider verses 11-18 in Psalm 22:





Be not far from me, for trouble is near; For there is none to help.12 Many bulls have surrounded me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me. 13 They open wide their mouth at me, As a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, And all my bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It is melted within me. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws; And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; 18 They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots.





The term 'dogs' was used by the Jews to refer to Gentiles (cf. Matt. 15:21-28). His heart has melted within Him (v. 14). During the crucifixion process, the blood loss causes the heart to beat harder and harder and become extremely fatigued. Dehydration occurs (v. 15). Verses 16b-18 speak of piercing His hands and feet and dividing his clothing by casting lots. This is exactly what happen as described in Matt. 27:35.


Psalm 22 was written about 600 years before Christ was born. At that time, crucifixion had not yet been invented. Actually, the Phoenician's developed it and Rome borrowed the agonizing means of execution from them. So, when Rome ruled over Israel, it became the Roman means of capital punishment imposed upon the Jews whose biblical means of execution was stoning. Nevertheless, Jesus is pointing to the scriptures to substantiate His messianic mission.





A further comment





2 Cor. 5:21 says, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." It is possible that at some moment on the cross, when Jesus became sin on our behalf, that God the Father, in a sense, turned His back upon the Son. It says in Hab. 1:13 that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out.


One thing is for sure. We have no capacity to appreciate the utterly horrific experience of having the sins of the world put upon the Lord Jesus as He hung, in excruciating pain, from that cross. The physical pain was immense. The spiritual one must have been even greater.


That shows us clearly how much God loves us.





http://www.carm.org/questions/why_forsak...
Reply:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


John 1:1





And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth.


John 1:14





I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.


John 5:30





He was sent. As a man to redeem...


Don't forget "the will of the Father"...
Reply:Yes, Christ had the choice to go through with the plan or not to but he was human too and If you endured torture and humiliation,even if you were prepared to die for a cause you believe in, You would probably be a little sour too, that is human nature.





I would suggest you do not bash what you do not understand. Just because you don't believe it does not mean you are right. There are many facts in the bible that have been proven. I do not deny there are inconsistencies in the bible, but that was due to different peoples versions of what happened.
Reply:That's a whole Bible Study lesson. Email me. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it has inconsistencies. It just means that you don't understand it.
Reply:Why do you pick on the trinity ? Being an Atheist. That's strange. I'm christian and debate this. I agree, Jesus was not God ....ever. A children could read and understand it. The Jesus is God.... is political and Religiously pushed on the people.


GOD BLESS
Reply:Your sarcasm is amusing, but you ask a legitimate question, so I will give you a legitimate answer.





Jesus (God the Son) never asked to be taken off the cross or to get away from the cross. The agonies of the cross were not the greatest burden He was bearing.





Jesus was receiving the full wrath and justice of God the Father in our place. God the Father had to turn His back on the eternal relationship that He had with His Son and pour out His fierce fury on the sin that His Son was bearing.





In His agony and loss, God the Son cried out to God the Father as they both found out what it was like to be separated from each other. That separation was what had to take place in order for human beings to be reconciled to God.





The next time you try to demean history, try reading it from the source instead of just typing out the subtitles from the Passion.
Reply:He had to fulfill the prophecy of scripture... He had to be forsaken!! according to the words in scripture... Scripture only becomes real when you use faith...
Reply:As you hear these words from the cross, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?", I invite you to see a miracle more profound and incredible than the works of creation. In these words, we see God Himself take into His flesh, the sin and the guilt of us all. You and I who have forsaken God by turning our back on Him, by selfishly wanting something much less than He desires to give us. So, Jesus Christ is forsaken by His own Father, so that God could keep His promise to you - “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
Reply:Yes! He could have wished himself off the cross. Peter did it! He wished that Jesus wouldn't suffer and die on the cross. But Jesus replied that this wish was from SATAN. Jesus did want to fullfill the will of the father and suffer.
Reply:Because what he was doing meant he deliberately limited himself to be a man. Just by having a human body limited what he did. It subjected him to the normal pains and discomforts we feel. He could have chucked it all, as he was tempted by Satan to do, but chose not to because of what his plan was. When he went to the cross, it was to take on the punishment of all people, and to do that, he had to actually be "cursed" and abandoned, as we would be without his sacrifice. Jesus had to endure what we would feel -- separation from God. That was a worse horror than a few hours of severe pain. He went through it and paid the price for us. He died took our sin to the grave. He rose again, proving victory over death and reconciliation with God.





Please don't assume that Christians have not proofread the Bible. This is a little deeper than you think. %26lt;*)))%26gt;%26lt;
Reply:this is precisely why i don't agree with the bible. I've been thinking this for a while and here is what i think, "If Jesus Christ is real and he is God, he would not have said that. If he is real and isn't divine, he could say that for his is not the son of God. Or he is false after all and everything is too contradicting and the story of Jesus is too obscure."